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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9855198" data-attributes="member: 6779310"><p>WEG went bankrupt due to other licenses: Indiana Jones, Tank Girl, Ghostbusters, MIB, Hercules & Xena, Batman d6, Necroscope... Star Wars was paying the bills nicely until they got too many licenses with limited appeal (TG, MIB, H&X, Necroscope) and the consulted with Asimov on Shatterzone.</p><p>TORG also ran out of steam about the same time...</p><p>And the GB license sunsetted. Also around then. WEG SW died because of everytghing else besides SW...</p><p></p><p>There were several bidders for it. Mongoose was interested, even pitched it. Got told, "no thanks." Matt's comments upthread downplay his interest in it.</p><p>I think a Traveller version could be good... but I don't know if Mongoose should</p><p></p><p>Edge isn't FFG, and does business differently. FFG only has the boardgames now; Asmodee ripped the SW, Genesys, and L5R properties away to Edge, to "Reduce business overlap"... and in the process fired everyone who had worked on either system. </p><p></p><p>Because they think they can get a better ROI by licensing someone else. At the next renewal window, I'd be shocked if Asmodee came out of it with a renewal. Why? Because it's not selling enough.</p><p></p><p>They split the licenses before. They're likely to again. They already have a split of licenses for computer games.</p><p></p><p>Not so much to the licensor; the licensee's up front fees cover that.</p><p></p><p>Wrong. Disney knows that things not getting new material don't generate them as much in royalties.</p><p>While we don't know the exact terms, we do know it's a flat up front fee, and then a per unit sales rate; I don't know if it's a percentage or a per copy or a per page. If they can end the deal with Asmodee, then they can find someone else who will produce more unit sales. </p><p>More wildly, they could easily go to the d6 copyright/trademark holders, and say, "Hey, we'll let you do the entire WEG back catalogue provided you update it to conform to current understandings of the setting."</p><p></p><p>Technically, LFL owns all of the WEG and D20 versions' texts. There's a proof that there is a reprint right, too, in that WEG d6 1e was reprinted (near verbatim) for core and sourcebook. And it sold. Not as well as many hoped for, but it's a great reprint.</p><p></p><p>All Disney needs to ensure are (1) the company will be getting more sales than current FFG sales at renewal time, (2) the company is big enough to put out multiple books, and (3) the company has a sales channel sufficient to achieve #1.</p><p>Given the lack of new material, even tho' there are 3 finished series not covered at all, and sales are slow on the reprints...</p><p></p><p>Now, a single unified license, like FFG had? It's burned FFG and Disney with the rather abrupt end of a number of SW lines... not just FFG SW. Disney could make a whole lot more with fresh blood on the job... or a small bit less... but a new licensee means up front and new products.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 9855198, member: 6779310"] WEG went bankrupt due to other licenses: Indiana Jones, Tank Girl, Ghostbusters, MIB, Hercules & Xena, Batman d6, Necroscope... Star Wars was paying the bills nicely until they got too many licenses with limited appeal (TG, MIB, H&X, Necroscope) and the consulted with Asimov on Shatterzone. TORG also ran out of steam about the same time... And the GB license sunsetted. Also around then. WEG SW died because of everytghing else besides SW... There were several bidders for it. Mongoose was interested, even pitched it. Got told, "no thanks." Matt's comments upthread downplay his interest in it. I think a Traveller version could be good... but I don't know if Mongoose should Edge isn't FFG, and does business differently. FFG only has the boardgames now; Asmodee ripped the SW, Genesys, and L5R properties away to Edge, to "Reduce business overlap"... and in the process fired everyone who had worked on either system. Because they think they can get a better ROI by licensing someone else. At the next renewal window, I'd be shocked if Asmodee came out of it with a renewal. Why? Because it's not selling enough. They split the licenses before. They're likely to again. They already have a split of licenses for computer games. Not so much to the licensor; the licensee's up front fees cover that. Wrong. Disney knows that things not getting new material don't generate them as much in royalties. While we don't know the exact terms, we do know it's a flat up front fee, and then a per unit sales rate; I don't know if it's a percentage or a per copy or a per page. If they can end the deal with Asmodee, then they can find someone else who will produce more unit sales. More wildly, they could easily go to the d6 copyright/trademark holders, and say, "Hey, we'll let you do the entire WEG back catalogue provided you update it to conform to current understandings of the setting." Technically, LFL owns all of the WEG and D20 versions' texts. There's a proof that there is a reprint right, too, in that WEG d6 1e was reprinted (near verbatim) for core and sourcebook. And it sold. Not as well as many hoped for, but it's a great reprint. All Disney needs to ensure are (1) the company will be getting more sales than current FFG sales at renewal time, (2) the company is big enough to put out multiple books, and (3) the company has a sales channel sufficient to achieve #1. Given the lack of new material, even tho' there are 3 finished series not covered at all, and sales are slow on the reprints... Now, a single unified license, like FFG had? It's burned FFG and Disney with the rather abrupt end of a number of SW lines... not just FFG SW. Disney could make a whole lot more with fresh blood on the job... or a small bit less... but a new licensee means up front and new products. [/QUOTE]
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