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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9343635" data-attributes="member: 6801845">While D&amp;D has some built in advantages, TTRPGs are a a competitive environment.&nbsp; Both 3E and 4E saw decent popularity when they were first released and then sales tanked. The name and tradition brought over the dedicated few but never seriously grew the market. D&amp;D was dying.&nbsp;&nbsp; Now? With 5E? The old grognards are greatly outnumbered by new players, the average age of the player base is lower than its been in decades. Millions more people are playing D&amp;D, and TTRPGs in general, since the release of 5E.&nbsp; You don't get that kind of growth in a competitive environment on name recognition alone.&nbsp; You may not care for the game and that's fine.&nbsp; But it's insulting to the people that wrote the game and continue to support it to say that they don't know what they're doing.&nbsp; It's insulting to people that enjoy the game to tell us that what we like is a terrible design and you alone can judge what is good and what is trash. Millions of us have voiced our opinions and continue to do so by opening our wallets to buy product that you consider substandard.We have actual data.&nbsp; Millions of people started playing D&amp;D with 5E and we've seen double digit growth every year for nearly a decade. Even though they relied on what you consider &quot;absolute garbage&quot; market research.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9343635, member: 6801845"] While D&D has some built in advantages, TTRPGs are a a competitive environment. Both 3E and 4E saw decent popularity when they were first released and then sales tanked. The name and tradition brought over the dedicated few but never seriously grew the market. D&D was dying. Now? With 5E? The old grognards are greatly outnumbered by new players, the average age of the player base is lower than its been in decades. Millions more people are playing D&D, and TTRPGs in general, since the release of 5E. You don't get that kind of growth in a competitive environment on name recognition alone. You may not care for the game and that's fine. But it's insulting to the people that wrote the game and continue to support it to say that they don't know what they're doing. It's insulting to people that enjoy the game to tell us that what we like is a terrible design and you alone can judge what is good and what is trash. Millions of us have voiced our opinions and continue to do so by opening our wallets to buy product that you consider substandard. We have actual data. Millions of people started playing D&D with 5E and we've seen double digit growth every year for nearly a decade. Even though they relied on what you consider "absolute garbage" market research. [/QUOTE]

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