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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 4270542" data-attributes="member: 6533">I'd like to complicate the &quot;Suspension of disbelief&quot; criteria, perhaps in route to complicating the immersion description.Personally, I'd argue that suspension of disbelief harms the gaming experience.&nbsp; A passive movie audience suspends disbelief, a participatory gaming player should not.At the very least I'd say that it seems too perscriptive a criteria for game design.&nbsp; Plenty of games and great works of fiction fail to operate on the criteria of suspension of disbelief without loosing functionality.&nbsp; Saying its a necessary criteria of game design ignore the possibility that you could design for an audience that doesn't play with regard to 'SoD.'I could make a more rigorous argument on this point, but in terms of the terms already under discussion I think that what's required is a more primitive term.&nbsp; Audiences who are not playing with regard to 'SoD' still need some things that audiences who play with regard to 'SoD' will also need.&nbsp; The criteria needs to operate at that level.I think this potential modification of critera impacts the immersive axis in that it might better enable that axis to account for players who view the immersive elements as permissions/constraints rather than as experiences/perspectives.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 4270542, member: 6533"] I'd like to complicate the "Suspension of disbelief" criteria, perhaps in route to complicating the immersion description. Personally, I'd argue that suspension of disbelief harms the gaming experience. A passive movie audience suspends disbelief, a participatory gaming player should not. At the very least I'd say that it seems too perscriptive a criteria for game design. Plenty of games and great works of fiction fail to operate on the criteria of suspension of disbelief without loosing functionality. Saying its a necessary criteria of game design ignore the possibility that you could design for an audience that doesn't play with regard to 'SoD.' I could make a more rigorous argument on this point, but in terms of the terms already under discussion I think that what's required is a more primitive term. Audiences who are not playing with regard to 'SoD' still need some things that audiences who play with regard to 'SoD' will also need. The criteria needs to operate at that level. I think this potential modification of critera impacts the immersive axis in that it might better enable that axis to account for players who view the immersive elements as permissions/constraints rather than as experiences/perspectives. [/QUOTE]

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