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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 3987532" data-attributes="member: 54846">In the PHB, from what we can tell:Defender - Fighter, PaladinStriker - Rogue, Warlock, RangerLeader - Warlord, ClericController - WizardI personally dislike there being only one controller. Everyone has more options than 1. Count me as one who wants a martial controller. I don't think Alchemist, or Engineer/Machinist (Catapults, smoke bombs/bombs in general, trapper, etc) is absurd at all. That sounds enjoyable. A goblin or a kobold who takes the Repeating Crossbow one step further, turning it into an arrow-sprayer, or who carts around Alchemist Fire in a tank on his back with a pump sounds hilariously fun. I would pay money right now to play a Dervish style class, dancing around the battlefield with those curvy blades, slicing foes up.I also have not seen a Divine Controller idea that satisfies me. Yes, yes, druid - but I don't associate "Volcanos, tangling underbrush, clouds of gnats and bees, etc" to be "Divine"; those are Nature, or Primal, or whatever that source is. And the Cleric writeup in R&C says clerics will be getting Flame-strikey powers.</blockquote>