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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 3990286" data-attributes="member: 54846">I can roll with that. That conceptualizes fairly easily. I could argue that you come across situatiosn where "That monster just isn't going to find you sexy simply because your species and it just has nothing in common; an ooze or an illithid just Do Not mate like that." But the same could be accomplished with just a 'Bow Before my Might' Enchanter, or a hypnotist 'You are getting sleeeeeeeepy'.So while I see what you're saying, I think someone who is going to be putting themselves on the front line is likely not going to be well served if they fail their thing and get splattered all over the field, you know? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> This isn't true, not necessarily.I don't see beguilers dominating the field. Looking at a lot of their spell selection, they're "You guys, over there, you're disabled." Glitterdust blinding foes, Crushing Despair, Hypnotic Pattern, Color Spray, Vertigo Field, Silence, etc. They can effect single targets (Blinding Color Surge, Daze, Vertigo), but there's a lot of cones and bursts. Phantom Battle and Legion of Steel provide flanking or AoOs for everyone - that's controllerish to a T, by basically discouraging people from moving through areas. As well, illusions can hamper and contain, assuming they're powerful enough. Basically drop an illusion of Something in that area over there, and people likely won't enter it.From what we saw about the Warlock, they apparently get damage to individuals they have currently Cursed. Little to do with combat advantage.And I've not seen anything that has to do with combat advantage for Rangers.</blockquote>

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