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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 5474437" data-attributes="member: 5038"><p>The friend admits to trying to stretch the rules and see what he can get away with. I am not interested in that. It leads to arguments between him and the DM and escalation. The DM has also complained about him to me in the past (and wonders why I don't have the problem this when I run), but refuses to do anything about it.</p><p></p><p>And, yes, as a player, I do, actually, sit and interview the DM (and, as a GM, I look for compatible players). I have played for enough years and in enough games to know what I enjoy, what I don't enjoy and what bores the hell out of me. I have done D&D games that were "pun" games, were "evil campaigns", reskin superheroes into D&D (why would I want to? I have several superhero games), high level games, let's slay gods, etc. I have seen bored "butt kickers" ruin games by sulking, whining when the game moves away from combat to social interaction with NPCs, and attacking NPCs or complain that players were not optimized for combat. I have seen power gamers complain about the starting power level,MAD, or the ineffectual builds of other party members that were not optimized and then get into escalation with the DM (and I am sure that storytellers and method actors cause problems in games with butt kickers etc. At some point, one realizes that not every play style is compatible with every other playstyle depending where people fall on various axis.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And, here you answered your question. It is a matter of what an individual finds fun. </p><p>When it comes to D&D, there are many ways to play and I am looking for certain styles of play that I find fun rather than one where it clashes. I am not going to waste my time playing in a game that does not give me enjoyment rather than stay in the game and bring down everybody else, who might enjoy it. </p><p>I don't belittle them for wanting to play that campaign. I am glad they are having fun except that I always get the complaints from the DM and various playersf. It just does not interest me and I prefer to find something else to do and hang with them another time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 5474437, member: 5038"] The friend admits to trying to stretch the rules and see what he can get away with. I am not interested in that. It leads to arguments between him and the DM and escalation. The DM has also complained about him to me in the past (and wonders why I don't have the problem this when I run), but refuses to do anything about it. And, yes, as a player, I do, actually, sit and interview the DM (and, as a GM, I look for compatible players). I have played for enough years and in enough games to know what I enjoy, what I don't enjoy and what bores the hell out of me. I have done D&D games that were "pun" games, were "evil campaigns", reskin superheroes into D&D (why would I want to? I have several superhero games), high level games, let's slay gods, etc. I have seen bored "butt kickers" ruin games by sulking, whining when the game moves away from combat to social interaction with NPCs, and attacking NPCs or complain that players were not optimized for combat. I have seen power gamers complain about the starting power level,MAD, or the ineffectual builds of other party members that were not optimized and then get into escalation with the DM (and I am sure that storytellers and method actors cause problems in games with butt kickers etc. At some point, one realizes that not every play style is compatible with every other playstyle depending where people fall on various axis. And, here you answered your question. It is a matter of what an individual finds fun. When it comes to D&D, there are many ways to play and I am looking for certain styles of play that I find fun rather than one where it clashes. I am not going to waste my time playing in a game that does not give me enjoyment rather than stay in the game and bring down everybody else, who might enjoy it. I don't belittle them for wanting to play that campaign. I am glad they are having fun except that I always get the complaints from the DM and various playersf. It just does not interest me and I prefer to find something else to do and hang with them another time. [/QUOTE]
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