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Message: <blockquote data-quote="iwatt" data-source="post: 1173715" data-attributes="member: 11085">Why would the swords fight?As F5 said, consider that the Wizards have outriders scouting for the approaching party. But the swords, except for the Cleric I'm guessing, have probabbly got Good Hide modifiers. And would have good scouts riding point as well. They're Ninjas for god's sake, planning a double cross themselves. In my expreience, Double-crossers always expect to be double-crossed as well, so they'd aproach the rendezvous with great care and stealth as well.So the thayans send the warrior and low level fighters out as scouts (they aren't much good for anything else). But I believe that the swords would have higer level rogues and monks acting as scouts themeselves(good hide, good spot). This would basically devolve to stealthy characters, picking off guards one by one. From the 3.0 rules of Eunconter distance, if the Thayan outriders are standing still, and attempting to hide, the Spot DC for the swords to see them is of aproximately 25.If the swords aproach stealthily (they are scouts after all) they'd gert some bonus to their hide (+5 for example)m so the thayans get the same spot DC of 25.But one party conists of Monks and Rogues (spot as class skill, the monks have high wisdom). The thayans won't have the same spot. The eunconter distance for Grasslands, with little cover, is on average 420 ft. If neither succeeds at the spot check, the encounter will take place at 210 feet. wre Monk speed would take the day. If the thayans are on horse, they can't hide or be still, and the monks spot DC shifts to 16 (large, not still).If they capture one of the warriors, they'l probably learn that a Red Wizard party is out there laid in ambush. Once you know a trap is set, it becomes a whole new deal. The swords could probably enlist the aid of the party, in a surprise battle. Probabbly wait for night, to take advantage of the huge sneak capacity of the swords.As Wraith pointed out, unless the swords win the initiative and take out the high level wizards FAST, they'll get their asses handed to them, if the Red wizard really has the spells fort it. Remember he's an abjurer, and in 3,5 that means 3 barred schools. in 3.0, it would mean at least 2 as well. So the outcome is really tied into what spells he has.But if the Swords lay their own counterambush, the Thayan party is toast.</blockquote>

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