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<blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6722432" data-attributes="member: 6701872"><p>How frequently someone says something doesn't actually affect whether it is true or not, neither does it mean that more people think CRs don't work as intended than do because internet forum threads on the topic always start with the "it's broken" side of the discussion.</p><p></p><p>And as for the "problematic because the MM was released before the DMG," argument, I'm glad you brought that up as it is one of my favorites given that it makes zero sense - every monster from the monster manual I have seen checked (which is more than a few, and all over the CR range) matches up to the guidelines for creating monsters that are found in the DMG (at least, once you actually include "and adjust as needed after playtesting" as being part of those guidelines since it is present, but folks trying to prove CRs don't work ignore it as it is inconvenient for their argument).</p><p></p><p>You appear to have grown confused. I use CR. I use it exactly as it is described in the 5th edition rules, and I do not ignore it even in part, even when deciding to place a monster nearby that is too potent for the party to directly confront, I use CR to help me find just such a monster.</p><p>Which, like looking at the monster holistically, is not an either-or situation - you do not choose either CR <em>or</em> read the monster and use it appropriately, they are not mutually exclusive; you can, and I do, do both.</p><p></p><p>I'm basically just counterbalancing as much of the "WotC please change/clarify this because I didn't read how it works, am using it wrong, and don't like the results" as I can so that, for example, less of Sage Advice is covering rules that nobody actually wants the clarification to because everyone either A) already understands how it works or has already decided to rule as they see fit on the matter, or B) will house-rule it to what they incorrectly think it actually says once clarification is made and are just demanding that clarification because they think it will help them win an argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AaronOfBarbaria, post: 6722432, member: 6701872"] How frequently someone says something doesn't actually affect whether it is true or not, neither does it mean that more people think CRs don't work as intended than do because internet forum threads on the topic always start with the "it's broken" side of the discussion. And as for the "problematic because the MM was released before the DMG," argument, I'm glad you brought that up as it is one of my favorites given that it makes zero sense - every monster from the monster manual I have seen checked (which is more than a few, and all over the CR range) matches up to the guidelines for creating monsters that are found in the DMG (at least, once you actually include "and adjust as needed after playtesting" as being part of those guidelines since it is present, but folks trying to prove CRs don't work ignore it as it is inconvenient for their argument). You appear to have grown confused. I use CR. I use it exactly as it is described in the 5th edition rules, and I do not ignore it even in part, even when deciding to place a monster nearby that is too potent for the party to directly confront, I use CR to help me find just such a monster. Which, like looking at the monster holistically, is not an either-or situation - you do not choose either CR [I]or[/I] read the monster and use it appropriately, they are not mutually exclusive; you can, and I do, do both. I'm basically just counterbalancing as much of the "WotC please change/clarify this because I didn't read how it works, am using it wrong, and don't like the results" as I can so that, for example, less of Sage Advice is covering rules that nobody actually wants the clarification to because everyone either A) already understands how it works or has already decided to rule as they see fit on the matter, or B) will house-rule it to what they incorrectly think it actually says once clarification is made and are just demanding that clarification because they think it will help them win an argument. [/QUOTE]
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