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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4412475" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>There are all kinds of considerations that go into buying something that visual inspection could help with- shortchanging due to packaging error or damage to product (both problems I've encountered with CCGs and CMGs), even whether what is inside is to your aesthetic tastes. This is something that some kind of translucency would alleviate. Even keeping the cardboard packaging, a window with the die lined up (much like certain limited CMG releases have had) would have let you evaluate the product.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not just 4Ed, but recent releases in general. There have been some complaints about inks that smear or books that fall apart- not unlike when 2Ed was having its problems with its brown splatbooks.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't buy DVD gift sets, so that's a new one on me. I'm willing to lump those producers into the criticism about their packaging habits.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Its not only the lingo on Amazon and other sites.</p><p></p><p>From what those who have bought it have said, the packaging itself as seen in a store while browsing makes claims which it only reaches when you actually include the discardables. </p><p></p><p>There is a thread on it somewhere else on this site- I'd have put this thread in as a side-comment in it if I'd been able to find it again.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As pointed out above, the EPA itself said the petrochemical and paper industries are running neck and neck as polluters in the gulf states...and we are where most of the nations' refineries are located. If you don't have refineries in your state, paper mills are quite possibly your #1 polluters.</p><p></p><p>Jewelboxes and ecopacks/digipacks are about what & what, in terms of ecological impact.</p><p></p><p>If I buy a CD in a jewelbox, and the box is damaged, I can replace that box cheaply and easily, and all I need to replace is the box.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, if the ecopack/digipack cardboard sleeve tears (usually along a fold, for something you really enjoy and listen to a lot) or is otherwise damaged typically by abrasion or moisture- spilled drinks and whatnot- there's no way to replace it with all of its art and info intact without buying the entire thing anew. That's not just the packaging, but also the CD itself.</p><p></p><p>It may seem like a corner case, but I'm a music junkie with a collection approaching 5K CDs- I've had to replace many cardboard packaged CDs. For those in jewelboxes, I can buy a box of 10 jewelboxes for the price of one cardboard replacement, keeping my liner notes, art, and whatever else came with the CD.</p><p></p><p>So far (purely anecdotally), I've only had to buy about 20 replacement jewelboxes (2 packages)...I've repurchased about 15 digipacked CDs.</p><p></p><p>And I'm <em>careful</em> with mine...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't think that a single sheet of paper wrapped in plastic, etc. isn't a bit overpackaged? A lot of people who've bought the product would seem to disagree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do books really need shrinkwrap? Does that cardboard slipcover perform any real function?</p><p></p><p>If you use it on your bookshelf, it simply takes up space- not much, but enough for a couple of modules.</p><p></p><p>Off the bookshelf, what does it add? It tells you that it contains a D&D product...but the products themselves tell you that.</p><p></p><p>Essentially, its pretty trash.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4412475, member: 19675"] There are all kinds of considerations that go into buying something that visual inspection could help with- shortchanging due to packaging error or damage to product (both problems I've encountered with CCGs and CMGs), even whether what is inside is to your aesthetic tastes. This is something that some kind of translucency would alleviate. Even keeping the cardboard packaging, a window with the die lined up (much like certain limited CMG releases have had) would have let you evaluate the product. Not just 4Ed, but recent releases in general. There have been some complaints about inks that smear or books that fall apart- not unlike when 2Ed was having its problems with its brown splatbooks. I don't buy DVD gift sets, so that's a new one on me. I'm willing to lump those producers into the criticism about their packaging habits. Its not only the lingo on Amazon and other sites. From what those who have bought it have said, the packaging itself as seen in a store while browsing makes claims which it only reaches when you actually include the discardables. There is a thread on it somewhere else on this site- I'd have put this thread in as a side-comment in it if I'd been able to find it again. As pointed out above, the EPA itself said the petrochemical and paper industries are running neck and neck as polluters in the gulf states...and we are where most of the nations' refineries are located. If you don't have refineries in your state, paper mills are quite possibly your #1 polluters. Jewelboxes and ecopacks/digipacks are about what & what, in terms of ecological impact. If I buy a CD in a jewelbox, and the box is damaged, I can replace that box cheaply and easily, and all I need to replace is the box. OTOH, if the ecopack/digipack cardboard sleeve tears (usually along a fold, for something you really enjoy and listen to a lot) or is otherwise damaged typically by abrasion or moisture- spilled drinks and whatnot- there's no way to replace it with all of its art and info intact without buying the entire thing anew. That's not just the packaging, but also the CD itself. It may seem like a corner case, but I'm a music junkie with a collection approaching 5K CDs- I've had to replace many cardboard packaged CDs. For those in jewelboxes, I can buy a box of 10 jewelboxes for the price of one cardboard replacement, keeping my liner notes, art, and whatever else came with the CD. So far (purely anecdotally), I've only had to buy about 20 replacement jewelboxes (2 packages)...I've repurchased about 15 digipacked CDs. And I'm [I]careful[/I] with mine... You don't think that a single sheet of paper wrapped in plastic, etc. isn't a bit overpackaged? A lot of people who've bought the product would seem to disagree. Do books really need shrinkwrap? Does that cardboard slipcover perform any real function? If you use it on your bookshelf, it simply takes up space- not much, but enough for a couple of modules. Off the bookshelf, what does it add? It tells you that it contains a D&D product...but the products themselves tell you that. Essentially, its pretty trash. [/QUOTE]
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