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<blockquote data-quote="dm4hire" data-source="post: 5868035" data-attributes="member: 14848"><p>I think the only way that 5e could fail is if WotC fails to listen to as many people as they can. I don't think they did that with 4e or there wouldn't have been so much disparagement over it. I’m not saying they have to listen to every little thing and try to please everyone, not enough time and you never will. I’m saying they should get on with the open playtest and keep it open. Drop the NDAs, especially at public events. Doing that at their own functions is their business, but at major conventions? Enough already.</p><p></p><p>They should read the feedback, especially the ones that go against the things they like about what they’re doing. Get feedback from every place possible besides conventions, LFGS, and the common places hard core gamers hang out at. They don’t represent the main stream, only the more visible portion of it. There are a lot of people who play that never frequent these places, except maybe to buy something once in a blue moon.</p><p></p><p>Make the beta rules as complete as possible and give it away! In PDF format! It worked for Paizo and a few others so it will work for them. If they want to sell hard copy that’s fine I’m not going to fault them for making money if possible. I bought the beta of Pathfinder if that says anything. They also should update the PDF midstream so that we can comment on any changes that might require feedback. And they should keep the forums open until they’re ready to go to print. Then they should sell the final PDF before they go to print so that people can help edit it and eliminate as many print errors as possible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dm4hire, post: 5868035, member: 14848"] I think the only way that 5e could fail is if WotC fails to listen to as many people as they can. I don't think they did that with 4e or there wouldn't have been so much disparagement over it. I’m not saying they have to listen to every little thing and try to please everyone, not enough time and you never will. I’m saying they should get on with the open playtest and keep it open. Drop the NDAs, especially at public events. Doing that at their own functions is their business, but at major conventions? Enough already. They should read the feedback, especially the ones that go against the things they like about what they’re doing. Get feedback from every place possible besides conventions, LFGS, and the common places hard core gamers hang out at. They don’t represent the main stream, only the more visible portion of it. There are a lot of people who play that never frequent these places, except maybe to buy something once in a blue moon. Make the beta rules as complete as possible and give it away! In PDF format! It worked for Paizo and a few others so it will work for them. If they want to sell hard copy that’s fine I’m not going to fault them for making money if possible. I bought the beta of Pathfinder if that says anything. They also should update the PDF midstream so that we can comment on any changes that might require feedback. And they should keep the forums open until they’re ready to go to print. Then they should sell the final PDF before they go to print so that people can help edit it and eliminate as many print errors as possible. [/QUOTE]
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