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<blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 3797685" data-attributes="member: 18832">I play World of Warcraft with many of the same friends with whom I play Dungeons &amp; Dragons and other roleplaying games.To me, they're different hobbies. Because we're casual, we don't have the same demands on our time as you describe: we might run a dungeon instance, we might not, on any given night. Playing World of Warcraft and Dungeons &amp; Dragons is not different, to me, from playing Settlers of Catan and Dungeons &amp; Dragons, except that I like the MMO and can't stand the boardgame. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />This is just a whinge, if you ask me.End-game content is one of the least important bits of the game to 90% of the players, and out of the rest, I'd say a good half (5% of the playerbase, all told) are just casuals who resent the idea of their being content they won't see.Even those people are fooling themselves: I couldn't commit to a guild running Molten Core back when it was the be-all and end-all of the endgame, but so what? My wife and my friends and I are level 70 now, and if we want to check that stuff out we can get together a couple of people and half-arse our way through it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> There's always something bigger and tougher, but that just means the stuff that used to be tough becomes easy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mhacdebhandia, post: 3797685, member: 18832"] I play [i]World of Warcraft[/i] with many of the same friends with whom I play [i]Dungeons & Dragons[/i] and other roleplaying games. To me, they're different hobbies. Because we're casual, we don't have the same demands on our time as you describe: we might run a dungeon instance, we might not, on any given night. Playing [i]World of Warcraft[/i] and [i]Dungeons & Dragons[/i] is not different, to me, from playing [i]Settlers of Catan[/i] and [i]Dungeons & Dragons[/i], except that I [b]like[/b] the MMO and can't stand the boardgame. ;) This is just a whinge, if you ask me. End-game content is one of the least important bits of the game to 90% of the players, and out of the rest, I'd say a good half (5% of the playerbase, all told) are just casuals who resent the idea of their being content they won't see. Even those people are fooling themselves: I couldn't commit to a guild running Molten Core back when it was the be-all and end-all of the endgame, but so what? My wife and my friends and I are level 70 now, and if we want to check that stuff out we can get together a couple of people and half-arse our way through it. ;) There's always something bigger and tougher, but that just means the stuff that used to be tough becomes easy. [/QUOTE]

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