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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 3189581" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>When the MMIV came out, I ran to my FLGS intended to snatch it up. When I got there, I eagerly- almost greedily- thumbed through the pages.</p><p></p><p>That convinced me not to buy it.</p><p></p><p>If there were more new monsters and less classed monsters, many of which I can prolly pull straight from modules or issues of Dungeon, I prolly would have gotten it anyway. Hell, I tried to talk myself into buying it, and I still do when I have a lil spare cash to blow on gaming stuff... but I can't bear how stuffed full of <em>not new</em> MMIV seems. The same thing kept me away from the <em>Arms & Equipment Guide,</em> though that one I've never even thought twice about- I guess the MMIV has enough new coolness in it to keep me pondering getting it.</p><p></p><p>Now, don't get me wrong- I think I book of all advanced monsters would be really cool, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But that's not what a Monster Manual is <em>for</em>, imho. I want <em>new monsters</em> to be in there! I would be absolutely fine with a MMIV that had 1/3 of its content as advanced versions <em>of the new monsters in it</em>, and I think MM3 did a great job as an intro to that idea- I would prefer <em>more</em> advanced versions of things than in MM3, frankly. But please, I've had 6 years to stat up a 2nd-level gnoll ranger under 3rd edition rules. I have it covered, thank you.</p><p></p><p>Now, honestly, if there were only a few advanced monsters from the MM1, I would be okay with it. Hell, I'd prolly really dig a book that was 50% new monsters, 25% advanced versions of those new mosnters, and 25% advanced versions of monsters <em>from a variety of other monster books</em>- and no more than 10%, overall, being from the MM1. </p><p></p><p>I also agree with the comment that advanced monsters are more useful when some of the advanced ones are suitable high level foes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 3189581, member: 1210"] When the MMIV came out, I ran to my FLGS intended to snatch it up. When I got there, I eagerly- almost greedily- thumbed through the pages. That convinced me not to buy it. If there were more new monsters and less classed monsters, many of which I can prolly pull straight from modules or issues of Dungeon, I prolly would have gotten it anyway. Hell, I tried to talk myself into buying it, and I still do when I have a lil spare cash to blow on gaming stuff... but I can't bear how stuffed full of [i]not new[/i] MMIV seems. The same thing kept me away from the [i]Arms & Equipment Guide,[/i] though that one I've never even thought twice about- I guess the MMIV has enough new coolness in it to keep me pondering getting it. Now, don't get me wrong- I think I book of all advanced monsters would be really cool, and I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But that's not what a Monster Manual is [i]for[/i], imho. I want [i]new monsters[/i] to be in there! I would be absolutely fine with a MMIV that had 1/3 of its content as advanced versions [i]of the new monsters in it[/i], and I think MM3 did a great job as an intro to that idea- I would prefer [i]more[/i] advanced versions of things than in MM3, frankly. But please, I've had 6 years to stat up a 2nd-level gnoll ranger under 3rd edition rules. I have it covered, thank you. Now, honestly, if there were only a few advanced monsters from the MM1, I would be okay with it. Hell, I'd prolly really dig a book that was 50% new monsters, 25% advanced versions of those new mosnters, and 25% advanced versions of monsters [i]from a variety of other monster books[/i]- and no more than 10%, overall, being from the MM1. I also agree with the comment that advanced monsters are more useful when some of the advanced ones are suitable high level foes. :) [/QUOTE]
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