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<blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4558756" data-attributes="member: 70778"><p>The question is not leading because you were about to vote for both, or neither.</p><p></p><p>All 4 options are there. Those that don't care can vote both or neither, and those that do care can vote for the one they think should have highest priority in game/mini design.</p><p></p><p>I am expecting the results to show what the people who choose to vote from ENWorld prefer.</p><p></p><p>A: minis should be made to suit the rules of the game</p><p>B: the game should be made around the minis</p><p>C: doesn't matter</p><p></p><p>Everyone who votes has their vote displayed, so you can view them and see my choice as the poll initiator. There is nothing to hide in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>As KM stated, it is a design philosophy question based around the quote in the first post. Had that post not been made, this poll/thread would not exist from myself.</p><p></p><p>Also the poll has little to do with WotC, and probably shouldn't even have D&D as the prefix, but reflex had me add it so it did NOT be focused on any one edition.</p><p></p><p>It could apply to any and ALL RPGs, or games that are not dependant on minis, but minis are used by a large number of people.</p><p></p><p>Of course, Warhammer probably has the rules mad AFTER the minis and only a rough idea of the mini size is had, and still nothing of the mini design will alter the rules as the rules are updated all the time for Warhammer, and even older OOP minis are legal that do not match the newest rules written.</p><p></p><p>So as the quoted person brought the thought about the poll asks the simple question.</p><p></p><p>Should a games rules be built around existing accessories of the game, or should the rules be designed without regard for existing or possible future accessories, and then any accessories can be made in the future to comply to those rules if that is the intent of the minis design.</p><p></p><p>If you feel somehow offended by the poll after being able to vote for both options to show you have no preference, then what option do you feel was missing to allow you to have properly voted?</p><p></p><p>It also doesn't matter what the majority of voters will say, as the predictions like that can often be wrong. Thus my morbid curiosity to see who else felt like the person whose post spurred this forked thread.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sorry guys! I did not mean to tease. I recall on SOME website out there someone WAS in fact taking the chromatic dragons and building Tiamat, but the problem came up when the green dragon would not be made. I think another was painted green in its place to complete the conversion, but cannot for the life of me remember the website.</p><p></p><p>I was not sure at the time how the giant red neck and head would look beside the other ones, so did not even bookmark the site, so apologize for getting peoples hopes up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>100% of the voters chose game, and 10.8% chose minis.</p><p></p><p>That means 10.8% of the voters have currently chose both, or a stance of it doesn't really matter.</p><p></p><p>37/37 at the time of this posting voted for game which is 1 or 100%</p><p></p><p>4/37 at the time of this posting voted for minis which gives you .108 or 10.8%</p><p></p><p>It is the way the forums score polls based on multiple choice answers based on how many people have voted, rather than comparing the poll options against each other which would be</p><p></p><p>37/41 and 4/41 to get only 100% combined by the two choices.</p><p></p><p>Unless you did not mean add up based ont he math, but think it odd that more people are voting for game having preference in design to minis?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="justanobody, post: 4558756, member: 70778"] The question is not leading because you were about to vote for both, or neither. All 4 options are there. Those that don't care can vote both or neither, and those that do care can vote for the one they think should have highest priority in game/mini design. I am expecting the results to show what the people who choose to vote from ENWorld prefer. A: minis should be made to suit the rules of the game B: the game should be made around the minis C: doesn't matter Everyone who votes has their vote displayed, so you can view them and see my choice as the poll initiator. There is nothing to hide in my opinion. As KM stated, it is a design philosophy question based around the quote in the first post. Had that post not been made, this poll/thread would not exist from myself. Also the poll has little to do with WotC, and probably shouldn't even have D&D as the prefix, but reflex had me add it so it did NOT be focused on any one edition. It could apply to any and ALL RPGs, or games that are not dependant on minis, but minis are used by a large number of people. Of course, Warhammer probably has the rules mad AFTER the minis and only a rough idea of the mini size is had, and still nothing of the mini design will alter the rules as the rules are updated all the time for Warhammer, and even older OOP minis are legal that do not match the newest rules written. So as the quoted person brought the thought about the poll asks the simple question. Should a games rules be built around existing accessories of the game, or should the rules be designed without regard for existing or possible future accessories, and then any accessories can be made in the future to comply to those rules if that is the intent of the minis design. If you feel somehow offended by the poll after being able to vote for both options to show you have no preference, then what option do you feel was missing to allow you to have properly voted? It also doesn't matter what the majority of voters will say, as the predictions like that can often be wrong. Thus my morbid curiosity to see who else felt like the person whose post spurred this forked thread. Sorry guys! I did not mean to tease. I recall on SOME website out there someone WAS in fact taking the chromatic dragons and building Tiamat, but the problem came up when the green dragon would not be made. I think another was painted green in its place to complete the conversion, but cannot for the life of me remember the website. I was not sure at the time how the giant red neck and head would look beside the other ones, so did not even bookmark the site, so apologize for getting peoples hopes up. :( 100% of the voters chose game, and 10.8% chose minis. That means 10.8% of the voters have currently chose both, or a stance of it doesn't really matter. 37/37 at the time of this posting voted for game which is 1 or 100% 4/37 at the time of this posting voted for minis which gives you .108 or 10.8% It is the way the forums score polls based on multiple choice answers based on how many people have voted, rather than comparing the poll options against each other which would be 37/41 and 4/41 to get only 100% combined by the two choices. Unless you did not mean add up based ont he math, but think it odd that more people are voting for game having preference in design to minis? [/QUOTE]
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