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<blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 2425838" data-attributes="member: 32740"><p>The questions/comments posed by the original post:</p><p></p><p>Answer: you betcha. The DM can decide whatever he/she likes about what happens to PC's. The DM can port those PC's over to an entirely unrelated campaign and use them as NPC's. The DM can take one of those PC's and play it PERSONALLY in another campaign as a PC and nobody has any legal - nor MORAL NOR ETHICAL - reason to say boo. It might be discourteous, or rude to hide the characters origin as the PC of someone else but it's all make believe. Just because I want to play Superman, Batman, or Wolverine in an RPG game of supers it has absolutely no moral, ethical, or legal ramifications for me to sit around a table with friends and do so. It similarly doesn't matter if I'm running that game of supers and kill, maim, defile, or ridicule Superman, Batman, or Wolverine. Same applies for any PC that I find ANYWHERE, created by ANYONE.</p><p>This is where it gets just a tad dicey. People seem to be interpreting this as being a question of publication, profit, IP and LAW. It is merely a furtherance of the above-quoted question - does a player control a character in a game that I'm running even if that PLAYER is no longer actively involved in my game?</p><p> </p><p>The answer is still the same. The DM can do anyting to those characters in his game that he wants to. It's possibly not very polite to treat a former players contribution to your campaign as if it has no value to you - but then it's not very polite either for a player to believe that his character is so precious that it can no longer be altered in a DM's campaign without personal approval (even though you AREN'T a direct participant any more.) If a DM WANTS a former players further input, hooray. If further input isn't wanted or needed, well frankly that's okay too. It might be nice that if a player wants to spend the rest of his real life comforted in the knowledge that his PC has a life of its own in that campaign that the player would enjoy and approve of (even though he has no right to expect that) that a DM would be willing to treat that character accordingly with more respect and honor than if it were just any other NPC.</p><p></p><p>I heartily agree. If you want to talk about publication of characters/campaigns for profit, Intellectual Property rights, and LAW, well feel free. But this thread, near as I can tell, really wasn't and isn't supposed to be about that. Category (a) also holds no interest whatever for me. Since people obviously do still want to talk about it I would request that it be taken to a seperate thread, particularly since it is a clearly seperate discussion that has no bearing on (b) and (c), even if THEY have bearing upon (a).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Man in the Funny Hat, post: 2425838, member: 32740"] The questions/comments posed by the original post: Answer: you betcha. The DM can decide whatever he/she likes about what happens to PC's. The DM can port those PC's over to an entirely unrelated campaign and use them as NPC's. The DM can take one of those PC's and play it PERSONALLY in another campaign as a PC and nobody has any legal - nor MORAL NOR ETHICAL - reason to say boo. It might be discourteous, or rude to hide the characters origin as the PC of someone else but it's all make believe. Just because I want to play Superman, Batman, or Wolverine in an RPG game of supers it has absolutely no moral, ethical, or legal ramifications for me to sit around a table with friends and do so. It similarly doesn't matter if I'm running that game of supers and kill, maim, defile, or ridicule Superman, Batman, or Wolverine. Same applies for any PC that I find ANYWHERE, created by ANYONE. This is where it gets just a tad dicey. People seem to be interpreting this as being a question of publication, profit, IP and LAW. It is merely a furtherance of the above-quoted question - does a player control a character in a game that I'm running even if that PLAYER is no longer actively involved in my game? The answer is still the same. The DM can do anyting to those characters in his game that he wants to. It's possibly not very polite to treat a former players contribution to your campaign as if it has no value to you - but then it's not very polite either for a player to believe that his character is so precious that it can no longer be altered in a DM's campaign without personal approval (even though you AREN'T a direct participant any more.) If a DM WANTS a former players further input, hooray. If further input isn't wanted or needed, well frankly that's okay too. It might be nice that if a player wants to spend the rest of his real life comforted in the knowledge that his PC has a life of its own in that campaign that the player would enjoy and approve of (even though he has no right to expect that) that a DM would be willing to treat that character accordingly with more respect and honor than if it were just any other NPC. I heartily agree. If you want to talk about publication of characters/campaigns for profit, Intellectual Property rights, and LAW, well feel free. But this thread, near as I can tell, really wasn't and isn't supposed to be about that. Category (a) also holds no interest whatever for me. Since people obviously do still want to talk about it I would request that it be taken to a seperate thread, particularly since it is a clearly seperate discussion that has no bearing on (b) and (c), even if THEY have bearing upon (a). [/QUOTE]
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