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<blockquote data-quote="amethal" data-source="post: 7889522" data-attributes="member: 22784"><p>For something like Pathfinder, where there is a ton of material available with a click of the mouse, I find it difficult to get "group buy-in" (for want of a better term) to the concept of restricting things.</p><p></p><p>Even restrictions that are self-evident to me have to be justified by argument, with occasional re-hashes when people randomly feel the urge to complain that I've banned Black Tentacles or whatever (3.5 version; I'm not a big fan of the Pathfinder version either, but it isn't quite so tedious in play).</p><p></p><p>The GM also needs to have some fun, and (for example) having every boss monster "exhausted" from the second round onwards of every combat just isn't fun for me, but its interpreted as me being mean to them.</p><p></p><p>[Spoiler] PC sorcerer with insane initiative modifier goes first, targets monster with Ray of Exhaustion, monster makes Fortitude save and is fatigued when it gets to act, PC sorcerer repeats spell at start of second round, player insists that as per spell wording, fatigued monster is now exhausted with no save (-6 to strength and dexterity, forcing me to recalculate attacks, damage, AC and reflex saves, and the monster spends the rest of the combat as a punch bag and can only move at half speed.) [/spoiler]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amethal, post: 7889522, member: 22784"] For something like Pathfinder, where there is a ton of material available with a click of the mouse, I find it difficult to get "group buy-in" (for want of a better term) to the concept of restricting things. Even restrictions that are self-evident to me have to be justified by argument, with occasional re-hashes when people randomly feel the urge to complain that I've banned Black Tentacles or whatever (3.5 version; I'm not a big fan of the Pathfinder version either, but it isn't quite so tedious in play). The GM also needs to have some fun, and (for example) having every boss monster "exhausted" from the second round onwards of every combat just isn't fun for me, but its interpreted as me being mean to them. [Spoiler] PC sorcerer with insane initiative modifier goes first, targets monster with Ray of Exhaustion, monster makes Fortitude save and is fatigued when it gets to act, PC sorcerer repeats spell at start of second round, player insists that as per spell wording, fatigued monster is now exhausted with no save (-6 to strength and dexterity, forcing me to recalculate attacks, damage, AC and reflex saves, and the monster spends the rest of the combat as a punch bag and can only move at half speed.) [/spoiler] [/QUOTE]
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