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<blockquote data-quote="Dannager" data-source="post: 4814828" data-attributes="member: 73683"><p>My rationale behind expanding Rise of the Runelords for Tales from the Rusty Dragon was that I view the increase from 20 levels in core to 30 levels in core as less an expansion of the level of power that players can achieve and more a simple breaking down of the same span of power into smaller chunks. A level 30 character in 4th Edition has probably experienced about the same "level" of adventure as has a level 20 character in D&D 3.5. This is further supported by the increase in level of monsters in 4th Edition to spread traditional challenges out across all three tiers. Indeed, if I were sticking to a 1-17 spread, inserting stone giants as presented in the Monster Manual 2 in my conversion of Fortress of the Stone Giants would be problematic - as monsters of roughly 15th level, the party wouldn't really be ready to face them in numbers until the <em>sixth</em> adventure in the path, rather than the fourth.</p><p></p><p>In practice, I haven't had to add too many encounters. I can think of a handful in Burnt Offerings and maybe one or two in The Skinsaw Murders, as well as suggesting a couple encounters while traveling in The Hook Mountain Massacre. What I <em>have</em> done plenty of is increasing the size of a number of encounters. There are a good deal more monsters in my conversions than there are in the original adventures.</p><p></p><p>Your mileage may vary, of course. My conversions, in the end, are little more than suggestions from an amateur DM done in his spare time.</p><p></p><p>All that said, I think it would be good for the community to see some shorter adventure paths. These certainly don't need to be conversions, although the past is as good a place as any to find material for adventures. Even WotC producing some would help. Revenge of the Giants is supposed to be a super-adventure that spans the better part of a tier, if I remember correctly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannager, post: 4814828, member: 73683"] My rationale behind expanding Rise of the Runelords for Tales from the Rusty Dragon was that I view the increase from 20 levels in core to 30 levels in core as less an expansion of the level of power that players can achieve and more a simple breaking down of the same span of power into smaller chunks. A level 30 character in 4th Edition has probably experienced about the same "level" of adventure as has a level 20 character in D&D 3.5. This is further supported by the increase in level of monsters in 4th Edition to spread traditional challenges out across all three tiers. Indeed, if I were sticking to a 1-17 spread, inserting stone giants as presented in the Monster Manual 2 in my conversion of Fortress of the Stone Giants would be problematic - as monsters of roughly 15th level, the party wouldn't really be ready to face them in numbers until the [I]sixth[/I] adventure in the path, rather than the fourth. In practice, I haven't had to add too many encounters. I can think of a handful in Burnt Offerings and maybe one or two in The Skinsaw Murders, as well as suggesting a couple encounters while traveling in The Hook Mountain Massacre. What I [I]have[/I] done plenty of is increasing the size of a number of encounters. There are a good deal more monsters in my conversions than there are in the original adventures. Your mileage may vary, of course. My conversions, in the end, are little more than suggestions from an amateur DM done in his spare time. All that said, I think it would be good for the community to see some shorter adventure paths. These certainly don't need to be conversions, although the past is as good a place as any to find material for adventures. Even WotC producing some would help. Revenge of the Giants is supposed to be a super-adventure that spans the better part of a tier, if I remember correctly. [/QUOTE]
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