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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 1897255" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>You're probably not going to like to hear this, and I hope it doesn't make me sound like I hold grudges, but...</p><p></p><p>1 - The appearance of the words "s---" and "f---" in Dragon Magazine (the Martin excerpt and the issue before it, IIRC) was the proximate cause of the decision to terminate my subscription. When I invite you into my home - including via the printed magazine medium, I expect a certain decorum... while you're going to be accessible to my kids and I don't want THEM reading those kinds of words, more importantly, <strong>I</strong> don't want to read those words. They have no place in my home, regardless of the circumstance.</p><p></p><p>2 - This was exacerbated by the attitude of the Dragon staff towards criticism sent their way over the decision to include those words in their publication. The attitude I got was, "if you don't like it, you're a prude and we know better and are more enlightened anyways." In other words, the staff did not apologize and in fact seemed to want an apology from me for being offended by their decision to use words (some of the "seven words you can't say on TV," by the way) that are commonly known to be offensive. That took my attitude from, "well, I'm annoyed, but I'm also forgiving so I'll give them a second chance" to "well, I'm annoyed and it's clear they not only don't WANT a second chance, they intend to do it again so there's no point in giving them a second chance."</p><p></p><p>Again, call me grudge-holding and prudish if you must, but you DID ask.</p><p></p><p>3 - While this was not the proximate cause of my allowing my subscription to lapse, the "Dragon issue themed so as to plug the latest WotC offering" had gotten so blatant as to cause me irritation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you're not going to like this, but you asked...</p><p></p><p>If Dragon loudly and publicly apologizes for using some of the "seven words," displays a contrite attitude about it ("we apologize to those we have offended and are sorry for our poor reaction to the criticism when it was first raised") AND makes it clear that editorial policy from this time forth will be to edit them from its publications, I'll give you another look. Until I have your collective assurance that those words will not be used in my home, however, I see no reason to give you another look.</p><p></p><p>If you don't like it, that's fine. I respect your decision to do that. I'm just being blunt and to-the-point here in what I want before I re-subscribe so that there is no misunderstanding. If you decide you can't do that, and/or it's not worth the bother just for one subscriber, that is your decision.</p><p></p><p>BTW, I dropped Dungeon on the grounds that I shouldn't support a company that does business in a way I disapprove of - and because I had no guarantee that those offensive words wouldn't wind up in Dungeon as well. So you can get a "double whammy" if you get me back. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>And I appreciate that you've got a listening ear. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Seriously, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just trying to make my cause for disenchantment crystal clear.</p><p></p><p>Thanks,</p><p></p><p>Spencer "The Sigil" Cooley</p><p>Ex-Dungeon Subscriber</p><p>Ex-Dragon Subscriber</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 1897255, member: 2013"] You're probably not going to like to hear this, and I hope it doesn't make me sound like I hold grudges, but... 1 - The appearance of the words "s---" and "f---" in Dragon Magazine (the Martin excerpt and the issue before it, IIRC) was the proximate cause of the decision to terminate my subscription. When I invite you into my home - including via the printed magazine medium, I expect a certain decorum... while you're going to be accessible to my kids and I don't want THEM reading those kinds of words, more importantly, [b]I[/b] don't want to read those words. They have no place in my home, regardless of the circumstance. 2 - This was exacerbated by the attitude of the Dragon staff towards criticism sent their way over the decision to include those words in their publication. The attitude I got was, "if you don't like it, you're a prude and we know better and are more enlightened anyways." In other words, the staff did not apologize and in fact seemed to want an apology from me for being offended by their decision to use words (some of the "seven words you can't say on TV," by the way) that are commonly known to be offensive. That took my attitude from, "well, I'm annoyed, but I'm also forgiving so I'll give them a second chance" to "well, I'm annoyed and it's clear they not only don't WANT a second chance, they intend to do it again so there's no point in giving them a second chance." Again, call me grudge-holding and prudish if you must, but you DID ask. 3 - While this was not the proximate cause of my allowing my subscription to lapse, the "Dragon issue themed so as to plug the latest WotC offering" had gotten so blatant as to cause me irritation. Again, you're not going to like this, but you asked... If Dragon loudly and publicly apologizes for using some of the "seven words," displays a contrite attitude about it ("we apologize to those we have offended and are sorry for our poor reaction to the criticism when it was first raised") AND makes it clear that editorial policy from this time forth will be to edit them from its publications, I'll give you another look. Until I have your collective assurance that those words will not be used in my home, however, I see no reason to give you another look. If you don't like it, that's fine. I respect your decision to do that. I'm just being blunt and to-the-point here in what I want before I re-subscribe so that there is no misunderstanding. If you decide you can't do that, and/or it's not worth the bother just for one subscriber, that is your decision. BTW, I dropped Dungeon on the grounds that I shouldn't support a company that does business in a way I disapprove of - and because I had no guarantee that those offensive words wouldn't wind up in Dungeon as well. So you can get a "double whammy" if you get me back. ;) And I appreciate that you've got a listening ear. :) Seriously, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just trying to make my cause for disenchantment crystal clear. Thanks, Spencer "The Sigil" Cooley Ex-Dungeon Subscriber Ex-Dragon Subscriber [/QUOTE]
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