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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 8944727" data-attributes="member: 2013">As I mentioned in the thread, I object to (briefly summarized):<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Action Item #1 - My disagreement on this point boils down to a difference of opinion over whether the existing apology (boilerplate) is enough</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Action Item #2 - No objection to the idea of donating profits per se, but I cannot endorse (nor object to) the organizations suggested as I lack sufficient familiarity with them to provide an informed opinion</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Action Item #3 - Making the PDF into PWYW - effectively making the product "free" is likely to magnify the distribution of the problematic ideas in it and I find the goal somewhat inconsistent with goal #2 as it means future donations to the charity of choice are set to near-zero.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Action Item #7 - I disagree with the premise a Mystara-specific re-write is still needed on the grounds that later, revised publications for "generic" settings should be considered the new standard absent a setting-specific update because I'm not willing to require settings to be supported in perpetuity any time someone finds something to complain about; i.e., this is unneeded as it's effectively already been done in Savage Species and later books.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Action Item #8 - I disagree with the premise that rewrites for the Realms and Greyhawk are still needed on the grounds that newer, revised publications for these settings have been released that omit the problematic content - again, this is unneeded as it's already been done in 3e and later campaign setting books. (So I guess I don't necessarily disagree with #7 and #8 saying "this material SHOULD be rewritten" but I do feel "the material was ALREADY rewritten so these points are moot and should be removed from the list")</li> </ul>On a note that may or may not be relevant when thinking "products of their time" - in the late 1980's/early 1990's, I found the Julie Brown song "The Homecoming Queen's Got a Gun" hilarious because at the time it seemed so patently absurd. Listening to it five years ago, with the proliferation of school shootings in the US that has occurred in the interim, I found my amused nostalgia turning quickly to unease... because the patent absurdity that made it funny to my generation has been lost. The song hasn't changed - the world has and more importantly, I have - since the song is no longer patently absurd to me, it is no longer funny.When Orcs of Thar was released, I found the fact that it was done in a humorous style refreshing (as noted elsewhere, sometimes I appreciate D&D not taking itself too seriously - the Book of Wondrous Inventions, also a largely Jim Holloway-illustrated piece, is an example with I think much less racism baked in). In the intervening years, I've found the racist stuff is no longer as funny and I cringe at more of the book than I did as a kid. But again, the book hasn't changed - I have (hopefully for the better).</blockquote>

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