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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 8944923" data-attributes="member: 25619"><p>With you there. I’ve been playing since 1982 and I never <em>heard</em> of GAZ10 until the protest. I played and ran AD&D when this came out, and I probably saw it in stores, but I don’t recall it being “noted“ in any way until now.</p><p></p><p>Of course, I also don’t know what a “+” thread is, so maybe my observation skills are weak. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I figure a 35-year-old, unpopular-at-the-time book for an out-of-print edition and an out-of-print setting is essentially irrelevant. If GAZ10 sales are 1/10000th of D&D sales, I‘d be surprised it’s that lucrative.</p><p></p><p>And that’s the danger I see. WotC has no reason to defend this book, OR ANY out-of-print book.</p><p></p><p>WotC has their disclaimer on all “old“ works, and I assume it’s not worth an interns time to read it all to look for offensive stuff, much less inclusion experts with significant hourly rates to thoroughly review and write content specific disclaimers - which, not for nothing, would admit WotC “<em>knew</em>” whatever was in it, but <em>allowed</em> it be downloaded, bringing them more trouble.</p><p></p><p>I fear the logical conclusion for Hasbro is to just stop selling pre OneD&D stuff. Though it seems almost everyone here favors 5e (I do not) and overlooked it, one of elements of the new OGL that I particularly hated was that it banned everything from the original OGL & SRD’s - potentially banning OSR & PF1.</p><p></p><p>Last weekend, I was looking at 2e Of Ships and the Sea, and downloaded 3e Stormwrack - similar books for different editions. I’m a 3.5e DM who “sources” in an edition neutral way - I even bought Harn’s Pilots Almanac and I’ll use 5e’s Ghost of Saltmarsh too.</p><p></p><p>I don’t want a situation where prior content is banned, selectively or en masse. The disclaimer seems like a good compromise.</p><p></p><p>If GAZ10 specifically gets canceled, yeah OK. But if a second old book gets canceled, gotta draw a line before the obvious corporate answer is pull <em>everything</em> from the Dark Ages prior to 2023, since it’s just not worth it.</p><p></p><p>Ooh, if “heists” become controversial, even 2023 stuff will need to go!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 8944923, member: 25619"] With you there. I’ve been playing since 1982 and I never [I]heard[/I] of GAZ10 until the protest. I played and ran AD&D when this came out, and I probably saw it in stores, but I don’t recall it being “noted“ in any way until now. Of course, I also don’t know what a “+” thread is, so maybe my observation skills are weak. :) I figure a 35-year-old, unpopular-at-the-time book for an out-of-print edition and an out-of-print setting is essentially irrelevant. If GAZ10 sales are 1/10000th of D&D sales, I‘d be surprised it’s that lucrative. And that’s the danger I see. WotC has no reason to defend this book, OR ANY out-of-print book. WotC has their disclaimer on all “old“ works, and I assume it’s not worth an interns time to read it all to look for offensive stuff, much less inclusion experts with significant hourly rates to thoroughly review and write content specific disclaimers - which, not for nothing, would admit WotC “[I]knew[/I]” whatever was in it, but [I]allowed[/I] it be downloaded, bringing them more trouble. I fear the logical conclusion for Hasbro is to just stop selling pre OneD&D stuff. Though it seems almost everyone here favors 5e (I do not) and overlooked it, one of elements of the new OGL that I particularly hated was that it banned everything from the original OGL & SRD’s - potentially banning OSR & PF1. Last weekend, I was looking at 2e Of Ships and the Sea, and downloaded 3e Stormwrack - similar books for different editions. I’m a 3.5e DM who “sources” in an edition neutral way - I even bought Harn’s Pilots Almanac and I’ll use 5e’s Ghost of Saltmarsh too. I don’t want a situation where prior content is banned, selectively or en masse. The disclaimer seems like a good compromise. If GAZ10 specifically gets canceled, yeah OK. But if a second old book gets canceled, gotta draw a line before the obvious corporate answer is pull [I]everything[/I] from the Dark Ages prior to 2023, since it’s just not worth it. Ooh, if “heists” become controversial, even 2023 stuff will need to go! [/QUOTE]
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