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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8945672" data-attributes="member: 6778210">I mean, I don't think anyone else was "driven out" of the other thread, they just have to engage with it. If I was talking off-topic here, then I'd have to leave. That's part of ground rules. Echo chambers are where dissent is not allowed, and people can certainly dissent in that thread, but it would have to actually engage with the topic rather than try to shut it down.I think it's just using points that have been recently made to help modernize their pitch on this topic. I really wouldn't look at it being further than that.I think my point was largely that using such literature misses that those pieces often get used and looked at in those specific contexts, putting this in that sort of stratosphere misses that plenty of lesser things have gotten different reactions and different treatment. This is one of the problems with using "well-known examples" versus "more appropriate examples", in that conflating the two misses differences in how they are analyzed and treated.Also it was half-a-joke. Not a full one, but at least 50% one.</blockquote>