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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2311043" data-attributes="member: 19675">Like Runesong42, I once did a nifty Cleric in Player's Option, based on Finno/Russian mythology.&nbsp; Warrior THAC0, Medium Armor, d8 or d10 HD (I don't recall which) and as at home in the wilderness as a Ranger. Longbow, 2hdMaul and 2hdAxe were his weapons. Instead of power over the undead, he inspired Berserker Frenzy.However, instead of going the power-spell option, he loaded up on Major Access to 5pt &quot;wussy&quot; spell, and minor access to 3pt &quot;less wussy&quot; spells (Finno/Russian heroes not having attack spells), and his wizard school was Abjuration.&nbsp; His entire potential spellbook had 3 offensive spells.Instead of being artillery, he buffed the party 'till they were all tanks, and safeguarded the camp at night.Can't do THAT in 3.5Ed.A system in which abilities were given point values, but where classes gave point breaks could be very easy to work.&nbsp; For instance (Disclaimer- what follows is NOT an actual system, just an example): Fighters would pay &quot;N/2&quot; points for what we think of as fighter abilities, &quot;N&quot; for Rogue Skills, &quot;Nx1.5&quot; for Clerical abilities, and &quot;Nx2&quot; for Arcane abilities, while a Wizard would only pay &quot;N/2&quot; for arcane abilities.&nbsp; Certain oddball abilities would have set costs (like Rage or Turn Undead), but would be part of the core class ability set- and could be given up in exchange for other abilities.&nbsp; So you could have a Half-Orc Shaman (Cleric or Druid) who could Rage (without multiclassing) but might not be able to Turn Undead or Shapechange.&nbsp; Or he could improve his spellcasting ability.Sorta like what is done for class and cross-class skills.&nbsp; You still have the class system, but you also maximize flexibility.It also gets rid of that pesky math you have to do with multiclassing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2311043, member: 19675"] Like Runesong42, I once did a nifty Cleric in Player's Option, based on Finno/Russian mythology. Warrior THAC0, Medium Armor, d8 or d10 HD (I don't recall which) and as at home in the wilderness as a Ranger. Longbow, 2hdMaul and 2hdAxe were his weapons. Instead of power over the undead, he inspired Berserker Frenzy. However, instead of going the power-spell option, he loaded up on Major Access to 5pt "wussy" spell, and minor access to 3pt "less wussy" spells (Finno/Russian heroes not having attack spells), and his wizard school was Abjuration. His entire potential spellbook had 3 offensive spells. Instead of being artillery, he buffed the party 'till they were all tanks, and safeguarded the camp at night. Can't do THAT in 3.5Ed. A system in which abilities were given point values, but where classes gave point breaks could be very easy to work. For instance (Disclaimer- what follows is NOT an actual system, just an example): Fighters would pay "N/2" points for what we think of as fighter abilities, "N" for Rogue Skills, "Nx1.5" for Clerical abilities, and "Nx2" for Arcane abilities, while a Wizard would only pay "N/2" for arcane abilities. Certain oddball abilities would have set costs (like Rage or Turn Undead), but would be part of the core class ability set- and could be given up in exchange for other abilities. So you could have a Half-Orc Shaman (Cleric or Druid) who could Rage (without multiclassing) but might not be able to Turn Undead or Shapechange. Or he could improve his spellcasting ability. Sorta like what is done for class and cross-class skills. You still have the class system, but you also maximize flexibility. It also gets rid of that pesky math you have to do with multiclassing. [/QUOTE]

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