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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salthanas" data-source="post: 762516" data-attributes="member: 9689">Greetings all  I think its quite possible that the Elves at the time of Saurons first defeat were probably not aware destroying the Ring would permanently cripple him, otherwise Isildur would probably have thrown the Ring into Mount Doom. They certainly might have suspected that he would eventually reform given that he escaped the destruction of Numenor that way and reappeared in only a short space of time. At a guess I'd say the Istari were briefed on this before they departed Valinor which is why Gandalf knows that Sauron used a vast amount of his own strength to create the Ring. As Sauron forged the ring in secret its hard to imagine how this information could have ended up in the hands of the wise or anybody else for that matter in the third age.yours Salthanas</blockquote>