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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5996728" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Yup. As it stands right now, Clerics have a set amount of Spells to use per day and a set amount of Channel Divinity to use per day on top of that. The question for CD then becomes... what does the Cleric use most frequently that would necessitate an additional amount of uses over and above the amount that they would otherwise get via Spells? What ability is so needed that they end up not getting to use their other cool Cleric spells, because all the slots go to X use?</p><p></p><p>Does Turn Undead get used with such frequency that you need to separate them out from the spell list because otherwise Clerics just never get to use their other spells? I believe the answer that most of us would give to this question is "No." Does HEALING get used with such frequency that often a Cleric's entire suite of spells gets used up with Cures? I think of all the spells a Cleric has... THIS is what would most likely garner a "Yes."</p><p></p><p>So taking basic healing out of the spell rotation and giving it its own amount separate from the spell list (like they did with Healing Word in 4E)... is a good idea. This then allows those Clerics who don't want to be nothing but Healbots more of an opportunity to do so. And it doesn't leave many Clerics with a complete suite of unused Channel Divinity abilities for the day because they just never had to use Turn Undead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5996728, member: 7006"] Yup. As it stands right now, Clerics have a set amount of Spells to use per day and a set amount of Channel Divinity to use per day on top of that. The question for CD then becomes... what does the Cleric use most frequently that would necessitate an additional amount of uses over and above the amount that they would otherwise get via Spells? What ability is so needed that they end up not getting to use their other cool Cleric spells, because all the slots go to X use? Does Turn Undead get used with such frequency that you need to separate them out from the spell list because otherwise Clerics just never get to use their other spells? I believe the answer that most of us would give to this question is "No." Does HEALING get used with such frequency that often a Cleric's entire suite of spells gets used up with Cures? I think of all the spells a Cleric has... THIS is what would most likely garner a "Yes." So taking basic healing out of the spell rotation and giving it its own amount separate from the spell list (like they did with Healing Word in 4E)... is a good idea. This then allows those Clerics who don't want to be nothing but Healbots more of an opportunity to do so. And it doesn't leave many Clerics with a complete suite of unused Channel Divinity abilities for the day because they just never had to use Turn Undead. [/QUOTE]
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