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<blockquote data-quote="triqui" data-source="post: 6005932" data-attributes="member: 57948">AFAIK, 2e did for paladins (and I house ruled it for clerics too). I think Dark Sun priests (who are elemental-based) were able to turn elementals of the opposite element, and rebuke his own element too.Imho, it makes much more sense than turning undeads, even for good-aligned &quot;judeo-christian like&quot; general clerics with no deity specialty that populated the original D&amp;D. Exorcism of demons make more sense than turning undeads, tradition wise, and demons seem to be a broader &quot;this guys irk me a lot&quot; in D&amp;D than zombies and skeletons. Demons want to destroy the world, both the seas of Poseidon and the woods of Elhonna. Vampires are traditionally turned away, but not only by faith, sometimes they are turned by crosses, garlic, sun, fire, mirrors...&nbsp; they are a bunch of scary people. It's something related to the *creature*, not the priest. Now they even sparkle, so they are even pussier <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />. However, other undeads aren't scared or turned away in traditional stories -zombies , for example-. Turn undead isn't a common trope out of european judeo-christian tradition, either. It's not common to see &quot;Van Helsing-like&quot; stuff in mythology about undeads in Japan, or China, or India, or the Aztechs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="triqui, post: 6005932, member: 57948"] AFAIK, 2e did for paladins (and I house ruled it for clerics too). I think Dark Sun priests (who are elemental-based) were able to turn elementals of the opposite element, and rebuke his own element too. Imho, it makes much more sense than turning undeads, even for good-aligned "judeo-christian like" general clerics with no deity specialty that populated the original D&D. Exorcism of demons make more sense than turning undeads, tradition wise, and demons seem to be a broader "this guys irk me a lot" in D&D than zombies and skeletons. Demons want to destroy the world, both the seas of Poseidon and the woods of Elhonna. Vampires are traditionally turned away, but not only by faith, sometimes they are turned by crosses, garlic, sun, fire, mirrors... they are a bunch of scary people. It's something related to the *creature*, not the priest. Now they even sparkle, so they are even pussier :p. However, other undeads aren't scared or turned away in traditional stories -zombies , for example-. Turn undead isn't a common trope out of european judeo-christian tradition, either. It's not common to see "Van Helsing-like" stuff in mythology about undeads in Japan, or China, or India, or the Aztechs. [/QUOTE]

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