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<blockquote data-quote="Fenes" data-source="post: 1588843" data-attributes="member: 604"><p>I have mixed feelings about 2E. It will always be my first fantasy roleplaying game. I will always fondly remember my first character, a bard, and our first campaign, spanning many years. </p><p></p><p>Though rules-wise... ugh, double ugh and ugh again. Horribly unbalanced from the get go. Even without the complete books the multiclassing rules made single classes almost obsolete until the highest levels. Stats were much more important for skills than anything else. The kits made it worse. In hindisght, I don't know why it took 3E for me to see how much 2E needed improvements.</p><p></p><p>Most of all I hated the take on elves. Uber elves all around, even in the fluff parts, who usually were 2Es saving grace. No reason mechanically not to play an elf. (3E has slowly gotten the same problem, a perfect elven subrace for any class...)</p><p></p><p>Nowadays I DM and play 3E, since my gaming groups don't want to start 3.5E. I like the rules, though I do not see them as "a rule for every situation" - with the d20/DC system and situational modifiers a DM can easily cover most situations with a skill check of some kind, at least I manage to, though I do not have many rules lawyers in my groups.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fenes, post: 1588843, member: 604"] I have mixed feelings about 2E. It will always be my first fantasy roleplaying game. I will always fondly remember my first character, a bard, and our first campaign, spanning many years. Though rules-wise... ugh, double ugh and ugh again. Horribly unbalanced from the get go. Even without the complete books the multiclassing rules made single classes almost obsolete until the highest levels. Stats were much more important for skills than anything else. The kits made it worse. In hindisght, I don't know why it took 3E for me to see how much 2E needed improvements. Most of all I hated the take on elves. Uber elves all around, even in the fluff parts, who usually were 2Es saving grace. No reason mechanically not to play an elf. (3E has slowly gotten the same problem, a perfect elven subrace for any class...) Nowadays I DM and play 3E, since my gaming groups don't want to start 3.5E. I like the rules, though I do not see them as "a rule for every situation" - with the d20/DC system and situational modifiers a DM can easily cover most situations with a skill check of some kind, at least I manage to, though I do not have many rules lawyers in my groups. [/QUOTE]
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