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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 632145" data-attributes="member: 158"><p><strong>Re: Now THIS is a rant!</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I beg to differ on this point - and the same goes for art.</p><p></p><p>Anyone can learn to be a plumber, salesman, doctor, or ARTIST.</p><p></p><p>Not everyone can learn to be a GOOD plumber/salesman/doctor/artist.</p><p></p><p>I have known personally about 20 professional salespeople in my life. Only 4 or them have lasted more than a year as a commissioned-only salesperson. And all 4 of them had the obvious sense of timing and intrapersonal skills to do it. Everyone else I know dropped out of commissioned-only sales and went to jobs where commissions only made up part or none of their salaries.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have to disagree here. Having a solid and reliable character is the most valuable quality. People can learn to a degree to express their innate repressed creativity, though some have it more than others, and I do not dsipute its value as a trait. However, personal strength of character cannot ever be taught, because it is attained over the course of your life and experience, and if some argue it can, even then only after years of personal re-training. Most business courses have this same concept, and I have to agree.</p><p></p><p>--------------------</p><p></p><p>Back to my point - Instead of discussing why some people don't accept what some artists feel they are worth, why don't we ask ACTUAL artists who make a living in the field what their money situation is like (not exact figures, but general tax bracket.) and ask them their best advice for succeeding in getting people to pay top dollar for their art? To quote an old saying, "Nothing succeeds like success." The best way to find the answers, is to find the successful people, and ask them if they will answer our questions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 632145, member: 158"] [b]Re: Now THIS is a rant![/b] I beg to differ on this point - and the same goes for art. Anyone can learn to be a plumber, salesman, doctor, or ARTIST. Not everyone can learn to be a GOOD plumber/salesman/doctor/artist. I have known personally about 20 professional salespeople in my life. Only 4 or them have lasted more than a year as a commissioned-only salesperson. And all 4 of them had the obvious sense of timing and intrapersonal skills to do it. Everyone else I know dropped out of commissioned-only sales and went to jobs where commissions only made up part or none of their salaries. I have to disagree here. Having a solid and reliable character is the most valuable quality. People can learn to a degree to express their innate repressed creativity, though some have it more than others, and I do not dsipute its value as a trait. However, personal strength of character cannot ever be taught, because it is attained over the course of your life and experience, and if some argue it can, even then only after years of personal re-training. Most business courses have this same concept, and I have to agree. -------------------- Back to my point - Instead of discussing why some people don't accept what some artists feel they are worth, why don't we ask ACTUAL artists who make a living in the field what their money situation is like (not exact figures, but general tax bracket.) and ask them their best advice for succeeding in getting people to pay top dollar for their art? To quote an old saying, "Nothing succeeds like success." The best way to find the answers, is to find the successful people, and ask them if they will answer our questions. [/QUOTE]
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