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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 635446" data-attributes="member: 812">None of which matters as far as &quot;Do I like this painting or not?&quot; I also find the notion of contrasting &quot;artists&quot; with &quot;average people&quot; repugnant, but that's aside to the point I was originally making, which was it does no good to argue with people who offer you feedback just because you don't agree with their point of view.The example you gave, of the child asking you why you drew that way, is not really relevant since the kid wasn't giving feedback but asking for information. When you get feedback, you thank the person who gave it. Then you decide if you agree, and if so, what you're going to do about it. There's nothing to argue about.You're misunderstanding the difference between actual value and, let us say, &quot;asked-for&quot; value. The car mechanic charges me for his time because he hopes I value a working automobile so much that I'll pay his rate. His bill asks me to accept his value on his time. An artist can certainly do the same thing.But the price that anyone asks for for their time isn't necessarily the price they get. And it's the price you get that determines the Value of your work, not the price you ask.So people telling me, &quot;I deserve X amount because I worked really hard on this,&quot; don't impress. They're trying to pretend that the product's value depends on what it's worth to them. Show me what you've produced and I'll tell you how much it's worth to me. It may be worth more to someone else, and if you can find them, knock yourself out. But don't tell me it's worth more to me just because it was hard for you.Even arguments like, &quot;I deserve X amount because I spent X-1 creating this,&quot; are bogus. If you can't get a price for your work that allows you to make a profit, you're in the wrong line of work.I understand the frustration people sometimes feel when their judgement is constantly being called into question. When an artist is told over and over again that their work is not worth what they say, it's discouraging. And this forum ought not to be a place of discouragement. Quite the opposite. But I don't ask artists to justify their pricing. I may be skeptical of their chances of getting what they're asking, but I would never ask for reasons for the price. There are no reasons, ultimately. You get what your work is worth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 635446, member: 812"] None of which matters as far as "Do I like this painting or not?" I also find the notion of contrasting "artists" with "average people" repugnant, but that's aside to the point I was originally making, which was it does no good to argue with people who offer you feedback just because you don't agree with their point of view. The example you gave, of the child asking you why you drew that way, is not really relevant since the kid wasn't giving feedback but asking for information. When you get feedback, you thank the person who gave it. Then you decide if you agree, and if so, what you're going to do about it. There's nothing to argue about. You're misunderstanding the difference between actual value and, let us say, "asked-for" value. The car mechanic charges me for his time because he hopes I value a working automobile so much that I'll pay his rate. His bill asks me to accept his value on his time. An artist can certainly do the same thing. But the price that anyone asks for for their time isn't necessarily the price they get. And it's the price you get that determines the [i]Value[/i] of your work, not the price you ask. So people telling me, "I deserve X amount because I worked really hard on this," don't impress. They're trying to pretend that the product's value depends on what it's worth to them. Show me what you've produced and I'll tell you how much it's worth to me. It may be worth more to someone else, and if you can find them, knock yourself out. But don't tell me it's worth more to [i]me[/i] just because it was hard for [i]you[/i]. Even arguments like, "I deserve X amount because I spent X-1 creating this," are bogus. If you can't get a price for your work that allows you to make a profit, you're in the wrong line of work. I understand the frustration people sometimes feel when their judgement is constantly being called into question. When an artist is told over and over again that their work is not worth what they say, it's discouraging. And this forum ought not to be a place of discouragement. Quite the opposite. But I don't ask artists to justify their pricing. I may be skeptical of their chances of getting what they're asking, but I would never ask for reasons for the price. There are no reasons, ultimately. You get what your work is worth. [/QUOTE]

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