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<blockquote data-quote="Wolv0rine" data-source="post: 636127" data-attributes="member: 9045"><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, you put alot more in your list than I wanted to subject the readers of this thread to in mine. Your job causes you problems, this is fine. I can actually claim everything on your list, plus a lot more, but I won't go into that, that's anti-productive. </p><p>Yes, you'll most likely not have a job after you've delivered your theoretical speech to your boss. Lord knows I don't have a 'day job', because my own ideology cannot accept being under someone else's control to that degree, but I'm a sociopath. *shrugs* The point of giving the (short) list of pains I have from drawing is simply, it's not all fun and roses, there i a price to pay for sitting around drawing, just as there is a price to pay for being a construction worker, a programmer, a doctor, or anything else. The fact that I know noone who suffers as much as I do over their own jobs was simply my own experience, and not meant as a "I hurt more than you hurt" competition. I apologize if you took it that way.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>And do you, to your own personal standards of quality, deliver that level of quality on a regular basis? Do you have the freedom to tell your boss "I'm sorry, but I will not turn this code over to you under any circumstances, because it's too far below my own minimum levels of quality"? I have doubts there, but I have that freedom, and I insist upon both having it, and excersizing it if need be. I've never met anyone who could say "I work 40+ hours a week, 5 days a week, and every hour of every one of those days, I know I am at my best", because I just don't think it's possible. At some point, one sours on the job, starts hating the job because they need some time off, but can't have it because they've used their time off, or haven't accumulated enough time off to use, or just that the company's alloted time off isn't enough to make them not hate it. I had a friend online who was a programmer, loved his job, lived his job. The last time I heard from him, he'd quit his job, and was looking to get into an entirely different profession from programming at all, because he couldn't stand to look at another line of code again. He burnt out <em>completely</em> on something he loved to do, because he had to do it someone else's way, on someone else's schedule. And my heart broke for him, because when I met him he loved to write code.</p><p>As for actors and other Performance Artists, I have seen more than enough god-awful performances to make it obvious that they cannot promise quality levels any time they're ordered to, either. Not to mention the legendary moodiness and pecularities of actors.</p><p>Do people do jobs at regular hours? Sure they certainly do. But I find it extremely hard to believe that their quality levels never suffer for not being able to say "The creative juices are just dry today, you'll get crap from me, don't make me give you crap".</p><p></p><p>(A question to everyone: Am I coming off as antagonistic here? It's not my intention, but it seems that I'm triggering that in the post I'm replying to, or am I mistaken there? If I am, I apologize to everyone)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolv0rine, post: 636127, member: 9045"] [B][/b] Okay, you put alot more in your list than I wanted to subject the readers of this thread to in mine. Your job causes you problems, this is fine. I can actually claim everything on your list, plus a lot more, but I won't go into that, that's anti-productive. Yes, you'll most likely not have a job after you've delivered your theoretical speech to your boss. Lord knows I don't have a 'day job', because my own ideology cannot accept being under someone else's control to that degree, but I'm a sociopath. *shrugs* The point of giving the (short) list of pains I have from drawing is simply, it's not all fun and roses, there i a price to pay for sitting around drawing, just as there is a price to pay for being a construction worker, a programmer, a doctor, or anything else. The fact that I know noone who suffers as much as I do over their own jobs was simply my own experience, and not meant as a "I hurt more than you hurt" competition. I apologize if you took it that way. And do you, to your own personal standards of quality, deliver that level of quality on a regular basis? Do you have the freedom to tell your boss "I'm sorry, but I will not turn this code over to you under any circumstances, because it's too far below my own minimum levels of quality"? I have doubts there, but I have that freedom, and I insist upon both having it, and excersizing it if need be. I've never met anyone who could say "I work 40+ hours a week, 5 days a week, and every hour of every one of those days, I know I am at my best", because I just don't think it's possible. At some point, one sours on the job, starts hating the job because they need some time off, but can't have it because they've used their time off, or haven't accumulated enough time off to use, or just that the company's alloted time off isn't enough to make them not hate it. I had a friend online who was a programmer, loved his job, lived his job. The last time I heard from him, he'd quit his job, and was looking to get into an entirely different profession from programming at all, because he couldn't stand to look at another line of code again. He burnt out [i]completely[/i] on something he loved to do, because he had to do it someone else's way, on someone else's schedule. And my heart broke for him, because when I met him he loved to write code. As for actors and other Performance Artists, I have seen more than enough god-awful performances to make it obvious that they cannot promise quality levels any time they're ordered to, either. Not to mention the legendary moodiness and pecularities of actors. Do people do jobs at regular hours? Sure they certainly do. But I find it extremely hard to believe that their quality levels never suffer for not being able to say "The creative juices are just dry today, you'll get crap from me, don't make me give you crap". (A question to everyone: Am I coming off as antagonistic here? It's not my intention, but it seems that I'm triggering that in the post I'm replying to, or am I mistaken there? If I am, I apologize to everyone) [/QUOTE]
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