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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 8047020" data-attributes="member: 1465">You are all right <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />We play 5e and the official character sheets left me baffled since the start because of the fact that they don't even have enough rows to write all the spells a Cleric or Druid knows at 1st level... how did then not even notice this?In every edition, early or late I encounter issues with both official and custom character sheets, some of which are truly nice, but in most cases when I try to play with them I run out of space somewhere...Also, specifically in 5e character sheets, I think people are still too much attached to the idea that you have to pre-calculate everything (attacks, saves, skills...), while 5e has forsaken all those fiddly bits that were typical of older editions, to the point that skills and saves bonuses are pretty much always just the sum of the proficiency bonus and the ability bonus. There's nothing hard to just calculate on the fly with skills and saves, although attacks and AC are used so often that I still think it's best to pre-calculate them.With these in mind, I have modified the official 5e character sheets into our own version and we have been using it for years, so I have also shared it here on ENWorld:[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://www.enworld.org/resources/quickstart-5e-character-sheet-beginner-friendly.1415/[/URL]but notice that they don't cover 20 levels, because I haven't personally played or run the game yet at high levels. I think it's probably time for me to revisit my character sheets design, and tweak something after a few years of experience using them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 8047020, member: 1465"] You are all right :) We play 5e and the official character sheets left me baffled since the start because of the fact that they don't even have enough rows to write all the spells a Cleric or Druid knows at 1st level... how did then not even notice this? In every edition, early or late I encounter issues with both official and custom character sheets, some of which are truly nice, but in most cases when I try to play with them I run out of space somewhere... Also, specifically in 5e character sheets, I think people are still too much attached to the idea that you have to pre-calculate everything (attacks, saves, skills...), while 5e has forsaken all those fiddly bits that were typical of older editions, to the point that skills and saves bonuses are pretty much always just the sum of the proficiency bonus and the ability bonus. There's nothing hard to just calculate on the fly with skills and saves, although attacks and AC are used so often that I still think it's best to pre-calculate them. With these in mind, I have modified the official 5e character sheets into our own version and we have been using it for years, so I have also shared it here on ENWorld: [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/resources/quickstart-5e-character-sheet-beginner-friendly.1415/[/URL] but notice that they don't cover 20 levels, because I haven't personally played or run the game yet at high levels. I think it's probably time for me to revisit my character sheets design, and tweak something after a few years of experience using them. [/QUOTE]

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