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Why are d20 Mecha so slow?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 1706105" data-attributes="member: 6390"><p>OK, I'll do the rundown...</p><p></p><p>Mecha have low slots, comparitively, they have standard armor, and would require "armor slot" revision. Power plant revision. External slot revision.</p><p></p><p>It took me awhile to come up with a system where TRUE "Lord of Battle" could be design, and honestly, caused me to totally rebuild the Mecha construction rules, basing them on the d20 Future Mecha creation rules.</p><p></p><p>Forget trying to create a SAMAS suit via d20 Future.</p><p></p><p>SAMAS suits are:</p><p></p><p>Environmentally sealed, radiation proof, capable of space use, highly manueverable during flight. Has a missle weapon, a Rail Gun (Hand held, so we will say, it does not take a slot), a targeting computer, communications, radar, etc. It vastly improves the pilots combat capabilities, even to the point of adding an extra attack (Well, actually Robot Combat: Elite (SAMAS) does that, so we'll put all those bonuses in the feat.</p><p></p><p>So, in order to do that, we over-run the slots.</p><p></p><p>We have to develope new equipment to compensate for the bonuses.</p><p>We need to develope new feats and skills.</p><p></p><p>That's just for the SAMAS. Forget the Super SAMAS, the SF SAMAS, the Navy SAMAS, the UAR-1 Enforcer (old, crap tech according to Rifts, but still a formidable battle bot), etc.</p><p></p><p>I tried to make the port, and the bots lost the feel, and frankly, were considered "craptacular" (To quote Hammerhead Matt) by the players.</p><p></p><p>Yes, it is good for Mecha Crusade, and good for most other people. Hey, probably most people consider it overpowered and I've even seen people say that CR should upgraded.</p><p></p><p>Personally, it could not handle the 'ports, <em>as written</em> without feeling let down, and substandard.</p><p></p><p>And yes, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. I did rebuild the system, playtested from June till now, and am in the process of transcribing it.</p><p></p><p>But that's not the subject.</p><p></p><p>Why not?</p><p></p><p>Because the mech's don't feel the same.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ralts Bloodthorne, post: 1706105, member: 6390"] OK, I'll do the rundown... Mecha have low slots, comparitively, they have standard armor, and would require "armor slot" revision. Power plant revision. External slot revision. It took me awhile to come up with a system where TRUE "Lord of Battle" could be design, and honestly, caused me to totally rebuild the Mecha construction rules, basing them on the d20 Future Mecha creation rules. Forget trying to create a SAMAS suit via d20 Future. SAMAS suits are: Environmentally sealed, radiation proof, capable of space use, highly manueverable during flight. Has a missle weapon, a Rail Gun (Hand held, so we will say, it does not take a slot), a targeting computer, communications, radar, etc. It vastly improves the pilots combat capabilities, even to the point of adding an extra attack (Well, actually Robot Combat: Elite (SAMAS) does that, so we'll put all those bonuses in the feat. So, in order to do that, we over-run the slots. We have to develope new equipment to compensate for the bonuses. We need to develope new feats and skills. That's just for the SAMAS. Forget the Super SAMAS, the SF SAMAS, the Navy SAMAS, the UAR-1 Enforcer (old, crap tech according to Rifts, but still a formidable battle bot), etc. I tried to make the port, and the bots lost the feel, and frankly, were considered "craptacular" (To quote Hammerhead Matt) by the players. Yes, it is good for Mecha Crusade, and good for most other people. Hey, probably most people consider it overpowered and I've even seen people say that CR should upgraded. Personally, it could not handle the 'ports, [i]as written[/i] without feeling let down, and substandard. And yes, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. I did rebuild the system, playtested from June till now, and am in the process of transcribing it. But that's not the subject. Why not? Because the mech's don't feel the same. [/QUOTE]
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