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<blockquote data-quote="DragonLancer" data-source="post: 3531219" data-attributes="member: 11868">Not a personal attack, just something that I have come to expect from ENWorld, that one person has a difference of opinion and for all intents and purposes gets jumped for it. My opinion isn't weak at all. It just seems to be an aspect that you have been fortunate enough to either not experience or miss. Allow me to put forward my experience. I've played with a lot of people, both at tabletop and online. Rarely do I ever see an example of what you showcase here. What I see are (example time) fighters with the same feat progressions (power attack through to whirlwind, as an example) with rarely any real variation. I can say the same for other classes. However, I can only speak from my experience not yours.[quotes]And wizards? Their hit points are the farthest thing from being their most definitive trait.</blockquote>I was using wizard as an example, not a statement of fact.Not really, but it is variety. I would hate to play in a game where everyone was built on the same points values and had the same HP (before con) as every other member of that class in the party. I can see what people say when they argue that dice rolling for stats can end up with unbalanced characters, where one is better than another but to me that is the spice of variety. When everyone is built on the same values there isn't enough variety IMO.We were talking game mechanics not personality and roleplaying.I'm not looking for an argument, and I'm not not trying start one. It's a topic that is fairly fresh in my mind because my D&amp;D players and I recently discussed something similar a few weeks back (might have been from a post on here, I can't remember).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="DragonLancer, post: 3531219, member: 11868"] Not a personal attack, just something that I have come to expect from ENWorld, that one person has a difference of opinion and for all intents and purposes gets jumped for it. My opinion isn't weak at all. It just seems to be an aspect that you have been fortunate enough to either not experience or miss. Allow me to put forward my experience. I've played with a lot of people, both at tabletop and online. Rarely do I ever see an example of what you showcase here. What I see are (example time) fighters with the same feat progressions (power attack through to whirlwind, as an example) with rarely any real variation. I can say the same for other classes. However, I can only speak from my experience not yours. [quotes]And wizards? Their hit points are the farthest thing from being their most definitive trait.[/QUOTE] I was using wizard as an example, not a statement of fact. Not really, but it is variety. I would hate to play in a game where everyone was built on the same points values and had the same HP (before con) as every other member of that class in the party. I can see what people say when they argue that dice rolling for stats can end up with unbalanced characters, where one is better than another but to me that is the spice of variety. When everyone is built on the same values there isn't enough variety IMO. We were talking game mechanics not personality and roleplaying. I'm not looking for an argument, and I'm not not trying start one. It's a topic that is fairly fresh in my mind because my D&D players and I recently discussed something similar a few weeks back (might have been from a post on here, I can't remember). [/QUOTE]

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