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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DandD" data-source="post: 4321131" data-attributes="member: 55168">Seeing as in 3rd edition, people already complained about the "christmas tree"-effect that was infact needed to stay competitive against the various monsters with higher challenge rating, and how they always needed to look into the DMG, people complaining that the players who will need the items to stay competitive (alas, they couldn't get rid of the christmas tree, but at least shrunk it down) now finally get the information they need in their vicinity is a little bit hard for me to follow. I'm glad to know that this is one of the changes made for the right reasons. Besides, magic items stop to be mysterious as soon as you assign stats to them, which starts the moment you give out the magical do-hickey to the player character, unless you're one of those lame game masters who don't notice how they disrupt the fun of everybody else by stalling the information-output, and then searching for the magical effects somewhere on page xxz-whatever. But these people are fortunately very rare, and very lonely.</blockquote>