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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jmarso" data-source="post: 8415953" data-attributes="member: 7032066">I missed this thread when it started and I read the first couple pages of replies and the last page, but not the 8 pages in between, so forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has already said. My issue with rangers as half casters as written is that they basically become druids with no weapon/armor restrictions. Which is fine if that is what you want your rangers to be. In another thread I posted my version of a 'martial ranger' with no spellcasting ability. I haven't actually tried it out in a game yet, so I don't know how well it actually works/plays. That said, I'm not opposed to rangers having a limited amount of druidical magic- I like the 2E solution which was not to give it to them until much higher levels, like 8th or 9th IIRC. So that might be another thing to house rule if you want to try it: take the whole ranger spell chart and shift it so that it doesn't begin until 9th level. That's making the ranger a 'quarter caster' or maybe even less, and still satisfies all the tropes about Aragorn types using healing magic and such. In LOTR, he was clearly 'high level' even the very first time he broke out the athelas after the attack on Weathertop.</blockquote>