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<blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 192050" data-attributes="member: 891"><p>Watch almost any cowboy movie made before the 70s. I'd say any but there's probably at least one film in the era on J. Hoover's subversive list... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>When I went to school in this country (USA) I was taught that <em>'the native people were savage, dirty, and abusive of women (in a sexual way...). Many of them were thankful for the help of the settlers in taking them over and civilizing them by putting them in camps...'</em></p><p>Maybe I'm a bit older than some of you... My mother's in the generation where some of her peers were sterilized by the US governement in order to stop the spread of 'undesirables' (actually this program was still going into the late 60's or early 70's).</p><p>In school I remember actual arguments over weather or not there were 'people' here before Columbus, as in; the natives didn't count; though it took a while to get the teachers to even admit to natives in the first place. Apparently 'those people' just suddenly appeared as something to get in the way of settlement.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ethics of something is not only written by the victors, but changes over time.</p><p></p><p>There was a time when preachers would quote from the bible to back up slavery. Not that I've any idea what they were quoting. Certainly wasn't anything in the New Testament... And the old always seemed to me to paint the slavers as the bad guys. But they would quote away anyway. Because the ethics of their society said it was a good and moral thing and part of the natural order.</p><p></p><p>One wonders what in our modern society our own descendants will look back on with shock and horror.</p><p></p><p>Clothes? Republicans? Alcohol? Eating Meat? Vegans? Driving gas powered autos? Richard Simmons?</p><p></p><p>It could be anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kichwas, post: 192050, member: 891"] Watch almost any cowboy movie made before the 70s. I'd say any but there's probably at least one film in the era on J. Hoover's subversive list... :D When I went to school in this country (USA) I was taught that [i]'the native people were savage, dirty, and abusive of women (in a sexual way...). Many of them were thankful for the help of the settlers in taking them over and civilizing them by putting them in camps...'[/i] Maybe I'm a bit older than some of you... My mother's in the generation where some of her peers were sterilized by the US governement in order to stop the spread of 'undesirables' (actually this program was still going into the late 60's or early 70's). In school I remember actual arguments over weather or not there were 'people' here before Columbus, as in; the natives didn't count; though it took a while to get the teachers to even admit to natives in the first place. Apparently 'those people' just suddenly appeared as something to get in the way of settlement. Ethics of something is not only written by the victors, but changes over time. There was a time when preachers would quote from the bible to back up slavery. Not that I've any idea what they were quoting. Certainly wasn't anything in the New Testament... And the old always seemed to me to paint the slavers as the bad guys. But they would quote away anyway. Because the ethics of their society said it was a good and moral thing and part of the natural order. One wonders what in our modern society our own descendants will look back on with shock and horror. Clothes? Republicans? Alcohol? Eating Meat? Vegans? Driving gas powered autos? Richard Simmons? It could be anything. [/QUOTE]
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