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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 156415" data-attributes="member: 707">The paladin as written can do all these things.  They're untrained skills, which means that any PC can do them.  Do I think a paladin can climb as well as a monk?  No.Or swim as well as a barbarian?  No.Or spot like a ranger?  No.Or for god's sake Sense Motive like a rogue?  No.These skills are part of the training and way of life of other classes.  That's why those classes are better at them than the average joe (represented by skill ranks above and beyond an untrained check.)  The paladin doesn't receive training to climb better, swim stronger, spot more keenly, or sense someone's hidden motives any more than his innate wisdom allows him.And knowledge skill ranks are acquired (IMO) through study.  That includes religion, nobility, and war.  I don't see the archtypical paladin of any sort being bookish.  He's been called to join a holy war, not a book club.Interesting that you infer my idea of a paladin is a one-trick pony, while your own version seems quite narrow.  Whyever does a paladin need to have ranks in Knowledge(Religion), (Nobility), and (War)?  Not every paladin is a well-read member of the Church Militant from a noble family.  Many, as I see it, begin under very humble circumstances.And Smiting Evil, while a limited ability to be sure, is an excellent one when you do use it.  Combined with immunity to fear and disease, lay-on-hands, sensing the presense of evil, a bonded mount, Divine Grace, and Holy Sword I'd say that makes the paladin exactly what he's meant to be.  A butt-kicking warrior for goodness.  Of course, YMM (and obviously does) V.</blockquote>

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