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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dragonbait" data-source="post: 2577989" data-attributes="member: 29182">Once again, it all comes down the the group's mentality. I used to be one of those GMs that would not allow PvP. It was not because I thought that those things should never be, but because I knew my group(s) and those things would destroy games. The only times I have seen PvP come up are the times that players have real problems with each other. Whether it is by coincidence or not, those that used to advocate PvP would always want to play evil character too. There were really only two problem players. One player was so aggressive in trying to provoke others that she would try to declare rules to start PvPs. "Since it's made of glass and smooth, and I did not hit its AC, then I'm going to roll a d6 to see where my blade slips. Oh, it looks like it slips towards Azure. I'd better roll to see if I hit him instead." She would also believe that all ranged attacks fired while she is in melee were directed towards her or near her, and become livid at this... On two occasions, she tried to fight others because they shot at enemies while she was locked into melee... The enemies that were 30-feet behind the group... And she was fighting enemies in front of the group. I'm slipping into a rant, so I'll cut it off here. Now a days, I don't worry about PvP since those that provoked such things are no longer in the group.</blockquote>