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Message: <blockquote data-quote="an_idol_mind" data-source="post: 3766352" data-attributes="member: 43749">Yeah, Khelben is meant to be a jerk. At the same time, the Realms authors could have just kept him as a high-level wizard who thinks he knows what's best for everyone. One of the things that contributes to his (and other Realms characters) reputation of being annoying is that he and the other Chosen have been getting a steady power inflation over the years, and now have abilities far beyond what any PCs could ever hope for. So while someone in Greyhawk might someday be on the same level as Mordenkainen, adventurers in the Realms will always have Khelben, Elminster, and a few dozen other characters who had rules written specifically for them looking down their noses at the PC.The charisma of Frank Oz (Yoda's voice) goes a long way to make that character appealing. Also, Yoda had a better screenwriter and director than George Lucas introducing him, and benefitted from not being an obvious and insulting racial stereotype.The challenge is making characters that the players love to hate, rather than just flat out hate.</blockquote>