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<blockquote data-quote="Korgoth" data-source="post: 3775359" data-attributes="member: 49613">Right.&nbsp; It's as if it states in the Forgotten Realms creative bylaws that any players who have the audacity to actually play in Faerun are doomed to live in the shadow of the enormous phallus of the author's favorite Mary Sue or self-insertion character.&nbsp; As though the real PCs are actually the NPCs, and the PCs of a given campaign are merely the barely-tolerated &quot;extras&quot;.One of the virtues of the Baldur's Gate games was that they let you play one of the &quot;movers and shakers&quot;.&nbsp; Though condescending cheaters like Drizzt and Elminister still showed up to show you how real heroes roll, just out of the goodness of their hearts.&nbsp; And you still spend your life putting up with crap from NPCs all the time.&nbsp; But it comes close to being interesting.It's not that the PCs should always be the most powerful guys around.&nbsp; That's not it at all - every campaign is likely to have a few characters who are out of the PCs league, at least for most of the campaign.&nbsp; If you play in Hyboria, you should prepare yourself for the fact that you'll probably never be better than Conan.&nbsp; However, at least Conan seems like a human being: he has limitations, foibles and distractions.&nbsp; FR NPCs seem more like superheroes in the &quot;Superman&quot; and &quot;Spiderman&quot; sense: you pull some crap in Metropolis, you better expect a visit from Supes.&nbsp; He's invulnerable and unimpeachable so just deal with it.&nbsp; The city of Waterdeep has like, what, about a dozen guys of &quot;living legend&quot; proportion?&nbsp; More?&nbsp; No wonder you can't start a bar fight without being scolded by some demigod.&nbsp; Add in Script Immunity for the more insufferable ones and its no wonder FR has such a bad rep.I can see a good parody of Faerunian gaming done in the vein of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Korgoth, post: 3775359, member: 49613"] Right. It's as if it states in the Forgotten Realms creative bylaws that any players who have the audacity to actually [i]play[/i] in Faerun are doomed to live in the shadow of the enormous phallus of the author's favorite Mary Sue or self-insertion character. As though the real PCs are actually the NPCs, and the PCs of a given campaign are merely the barely-tolerated "extras". One of the virtues of the Baldur's Gate games was that they let you play one of the "movers and shakers". Though condescending cheaters like Drizzt and Elminister still showed up to show you how [b]real heroes[/b] roll, just out of the goodness of their hearts. And you still spend your life putting up with crap from NPCs all the time. But it comes close to being interesting. It's not that the PCs should always be the most powerful guys around. That's not it at all - every campaign is likely to have a few characters who are out of the PCs league, at least for most of the campaign. If you play in Hyboria, you should prepare yourself for the fact that you'll probably never be better than Conan. However, at least Conan seems like a human being: he has limitations, foibles and distractions. FR NPCs seem more like superheroes in the "Superman" and "Spiderman" sense: you pull some crap in Metropolis, you better expect a visit from Supes. He's invulnerable and unimpeachable so just deal with it. The city of Waterdeep has like, what, about a dozen guys of "living legend" proportion? More? No wonder you can't start a bar fight without being scolded by some demigod. Add in Script Immunity for the more insufferable ones and its no wonder FR has such a bad rep. I can see a good parody of Faerunian gaming done in the vein of [i]Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead[/i], though. [/QUOTE]

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