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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dormammu" data-source="post: 3968841" data-attributes="member: 28738">There is no reason this couldn't be applied to the bonus rather than the score.If it's like 3E with a 0 average, you are right.  But of course, they have implied 0 will be the minimum and there will only be bonuses, in which case this would also work without using the scores.This would also work without scores.  Roll D20 + your bonus to beat 10 + their bonus.This one is the closest to needing scores, but again if they are moving away from penalties (ie, all stat mods are bonuses and 0 is the minimum instead of the average), you can still make this work without scores easily enough (eg, for every 2 you make your roll by you get a point, succeed when points > opposing Wis bonus).Again, the only reason bonuses would not be interchangeable with the score is if they went back to 1E where the bonuses weren't even (ie, not +1 per 2 points of score).  In that game it was like 15-16 was +1, 17 was +2, 18 was +3 or similar.  Because it wasn't a standardized progression across the range of the score, the bonuses were not functionally identical to score.As of 3E, bonuses and scores are the same thing expressed in two different ways.  The score is redundant.</blockquote>