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<blockquote data-quote="jessemock" data-source="post: 1301146" data-attributes="member: 15694">This has never been pointed out.&nbsp; The 3.5 books have been quoted once, 3.0 twice.&nbsp; Interestingly, the relevant passage is the same:&quot;Certain creatures are immune to critical hits because they do not have vital organs, points of weakness, or differentiation from one portion of the body to another.&quot;Now, unless this means &quot;they do not have vital organs, vital organs, or vital organs,&quot; then you are wrong.True; it is, however, a single point of weakness that extends for about 60% of the tree's height on average.Clearly, you've never been in the woods.&nbsp; It is very much possible to cut down a tree with a single blow from an axe.&nbsp; Myself, I'm only a humble woodcutter, not a lumberjack, and I can fell a tree of about five inches diameter with one shot from a good, sharp axe.&nbsp; I can kill a tree of about eight inches in one shot (and, really, that's the rub:&nbsp; you don't need to drop a tree to kill it).Further, it happens all the time that, when cutting down a tree with an axe, sometimes large chunks of wood come out; you get a lucky shot and you do an extraordinarily large amount of damage to the tree's point of weakness.Other better-trained, stronger axemen can take down bigger trees in a single blow.&nbsp; It's also the case that I've taken down seventy-foot tall trees of about two feet in diameter with a chainsaw.&nbsp; Now, I realise that PCs in D&amp;D don't have chainsaws; I also realise that I don't have girdles of giant strength or +5 Keen, Flaming, Plant Bane Axes of Hate.This is just a ridiculous statement.&nbsp; I barely even know where to begin.&nbsp; How about this test:&nbsp; you take one leaf from a tree and burn the rest of the tree.&nbsp; According to you, the leaf you have in your hand is the whole tree, still alive.&nbsp; Look; the point is that if you do X amount of damage to the trunk, you've done more harm than if you do the same amount to any particular branch.&nbsp; Plants have many vital spots, some of them are vital organs, others are just points of weakness.&nbsp; You don't even need to know this, in order to hit them.&nbsp; Just like vital spots or areas on creatures who take critical hits.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jessemock, post: 1301146, member: 15694"] This has never been pointed out. The 3.5 books have been quoted once, 3.0 twice. Interestingly, the relevant passage is the same: "Certain creatures are immune to critical hits because they do not have vital organs, points of weakness, or differentiation from one portion of the body to another." Now, unless this means "they do not have vital organs, vital organs, or vital organs," then you are wrong. True; it is, however, a single point of weakness that extends for about 60% of the tree's height on average. Clearly, you've never been in the woods. It is very much possible to cut down a tree with a single blow from an axe. Myself, I'm only a humble woodcutter, not a lumberjack, and I can fell a tree of about five inches diameter with one shot from a good, sharp axe. I can kill a tree of about eight inches in one shot (and, really, that's the rub: you don't need to drop a tree to kill it). Further, it happens all the time that, when cutting down a tree with an axe, sometimes large chunks of wood come out; you get a lucky shot and you do an extraordinarily large amount of damage to the tree's point of weakness. Other better-trained, stronger axemen can take down bigger trees in a single blow. It's also the case that I've taken down seventy-foot tall trees of about two feet in diameter with a chainsaw. Now, I realise that PCs in D&D don't have chainsaws; I also realise that I don't have girdles of giant strength or +5 Keen, Flaming, Plant Bane Axes of Hate. This is just a ridiculous statement. I barely even know where to begin. How about this test: you take one leaf from a tree and burn the rest of the tree. According to you, the leaf you have in your hand is the whole tree, still alive. Look; the point is that if you do X amount of damage to the trunk, you've done more harm than if you do the same amount to any particular branch. Plants have many vital spots, some of them are vital organs, others are just points of weakness. You don't even need to know this, in order to hit them. Just like vital spots or areas on creatures who take critical hits. [/QUOTE]

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