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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 5563951" data-attributes="member: 63763">Worse than that, the tratnyr is basically just a trident with better range. [which is basically just a spear you can throw 3/6 range. So from simple (+2, 1d8, versatile) the only improvements going to military then superior is adding heavy thrown 3/6 and then increasing that to 10/20).  In their calculations for balancing stuff out, they really rate the ability to throw a melee weapon highly ... the "best" you can get is +3/d6 for a superior drow long knife, or +2/d8 for various other things. Nearly all of them are one handed ... you don't get a shield (or two weapon defense, etc) with a bow or crossbow, so that is something to consider. Maybe if they made a two handed (not double, since it has defensive and can get two weapon defense) heavy thrown weapon that could make something with a d10 damage die.</blockquote>