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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cyclone_Joker" data-source="post: 6182764" data-attributes="member: 6750006">Except it's very difficult to become an intelligent undead safely and in a way that leaves you relevant. Liches require you to be a relatively high-level spellcaster and be willing to screw with your own soul, not to mention be Evil, ghosts require you to be a wizard to actually matter much, necropolitans require you to die a very slow, very painful death, and obviously causes some damage from coming back, what with the lost level and the XP cost, and all the others I can think of require you to be predatory and Evil or just a mind-slave of some high-level caster.Necropolitan and ghost are the only ones that would even  resemble being acceptable in most cases. Necropolitan isn't going to be readily available, because most people are level 1. Ghost has the problems that come with being incorporeal. And, really, I figure any wizard who really wants immortality can achieve it on their own anyways, it's not that hard and there are multiple spells that can get you there, so I don't see it changing much so long as the number of high level people are low.</blockquote>