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Why are undead inherently evil?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6183012" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>And a 9th level caster can cast <em>commune</em> and ask Pelor "is it bad to do things to this corpe?" If he says "yeah bro, that's totally defiling and like rude" then that is also a fact. </p><p> </p><p>Knowing something for a fact and believing something without a doubt are <em>functionally</em> the same thing. They are not the same thing but they act like the same thing. </p><p>I don't <em>know</em> that the light is going out in the refrigerator when I close the door, I just believe it very strongly. I don't need to close myself in the fridge to see for myself. And knowing for sure won't change how I act. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Just because an item does not have the "holy" special quality does not mean it's okay to mutilate. Things can be a sin even if they're mundane. Most gods have some mundane restrictions and dogma. </p><p></p><p></p><p>(You were actually referring to some setting you were writing.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you have a source that they're not? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>In all seriousness, most intelligent undead are typically written as being uniformly evil. There are the typical exceptions, but that's standard of D&D, as it just <em>needs</em> those tortured good guy vampires, and liches, and drow. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Vegetarians say yes. And cows also aren't sentient creatures. And they're seldom alive when you begin to eat them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's what <em>they</em> believe yes. But they are EVIL so I think they might have some bias. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Seen it in a few undead entries. </p><p>But I'm already 20-minutes late for bed so digging through a dozen monster books from five editions of the games seems... unproductive at best. And the Hypertext SRD is pretty fluff light so that's of no use.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ghosts are intelligent, so no.</p><p>And I think we've given so big justifications over this thread, so I wouldn't say it's completely arbitrary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6183012, member: 37579"] And a 9th level caster can cast [I]commune[/I] and ask Pelor "is it bad to do things to this corpe?" If he says "yeah bro, that's totally defiling and like rude" then that is also a fact. Knowing something for a fact and believing something without a doubt are [I]functionally[/I] the same thing. They are not the same thing but they act like the same thing. I don't [I]know[/I] that the light is going out in the refrigerator when I close the door, I just believe it very strongly. I don't need to close myself in the fridge to see for myself. And knowing for sure won't change how I act. Just because an item does not have the "holy" special quality does not mean it's okay to mutilate. Things can be a sin even if they're mundane. Most gods have some mundane restrictions and dogma. (You were actually referring to some setting you were writing.) Do you have a source that they're not? ;) In all seriousness, most intelligent undead are typically written as being uniformly evil. There are the typical exceptions, but that's standard of D&D, as it just [I]needs[/I] those tortured good guy vampires, and liches, and drow. Vegetarians say yes. And cows also aren't sentient creatures. And they're seldom alive when you begin to eat them. That's what [I]they[/I] believe yes. But they are EVIL so I think they might have some bias. Seen it in a few undead entries. But I'm already 20-minutes late for bed so digging through a dozen monster books from five editions of the games seems... unproductive at best. And the Hypertext SRD is pretty fluff light so that's of no use. Ghosts are intelligent, so no. And I think we've given so big justifications over this thread, so I wouldn't say it's completely arbitrary. [/QUOTE]
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