Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Why are undead inherently evil?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Cyclone_Joker" data-source="post: 6183034" data-attributes="member: 6750006"><p>Or they can cast Contact Other Plane and get a completely accurate, unbiased answer to "Is any harm done to the soul of the body if I animate it?" And Wizards are Int-focused, Clerics aren't. I'd side with Wizards in an argument any day of the week.</p><p>No they aren't.</p><p>No, they really don't.</p><p>...Then you've got some problems.</p><p> </p><p>I, on the other hand, do know that.</p><p>Cool. It's also not in a very handy list of evil deeds anywhere I can see in the BoVD, BoED, and the FCs.</p><p>And? Your point?</p><p>Which had no relation to rules. It was an unimportant tangent. One that was not in your quote, or really apparently related to your post in any way.</p><p>/)_-</p><p>Well, that's just tough because they are pretty much uniformly evil, with the exception of ghosts. Then again, so is everyone not killing crap in Baator, so it doesn't matter much. Thanks, BoVD!</p><p>You can't become a lich while Good, and I'd love to see you propose how a mad, Evil wizard becomes Good.</p><p>And PETA is insane. Moving on,</p><p>Well, that depends on where you want to draw the line. And an ancient, powerful vampire, when compared to a human, the difference might not be that big. </p><p>Well that just sucks for the human, because Vamps have to eat regardless.</p><p>No, they have to eat people. I call that no more malicious than a wolf eating a sheep or me eating a cow.</p><p>List 'em, then.</p><p>So?</p><p>Nope. Good and Evil are completely arbitrary. There's Mind Rape, which is an Evil spell. Then there's Sanctify the Wicked, which is Mind Rape, but Good. Poisons are Evil, but Ravages are poisons but Good.. BoED says ends don't matter period, and killing a genocidal warlord with a poisoned dagger is Evil, even if he was about to kill you and a billion other people. Hell, Evil doesn't even require any intention behind it according to BoVD. </p><p></p><p>Good and Evil are completely arbitrary.</p><p>And now those are the entire world?</p><p>Who ever said that it made sense?</p><p>... I think you're confusing "respect" and "convenience."</p><p>Sorry, brah, but that isn't how it works. You made the claim. You back it up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cyclone_Joker, post: 6183034, member: 6750006"] Or they can cast Contact Other Plane and get a completely accurate, unbiased answer to "Is any harm done to the soul of the body if I animate it?" And Wizards are Int-focused, Clerics aren't. I'd side with Wizards in an argument any day of the week. No they aren't. No, they really don't. ...Then you've got some problems. I, on the other hand, do know that. Cool. It's also not in a very handy list of evil deeds anywhere I can see in the BoVD, BoED, and the FCs. And? Your point? Which had no relation to rules. It was an unimportant tangent. One that was not in your quote, or really apparently related to your post in any way. /)_- Well, that's just tough because they are pretty much uniformly evil, with the exception of ghosts. Then again, so is everyone not killing crap in Baator, so it doesn't matter much. Thanks, BoVD! You can't become a lich while Good, and I'd love to see you propose how a mad, Evil wizard becomes Good. And PETA is insane. Moving on, Well, that depends on where you want to draw the line. And an ancient, powerful vampire, when compared to a human, the difference might not be that big. Well that just sucks for the human, because Vamps have to eat regardless. No, they have to eat people. I call that no more malicious than a wolf eating a sheep or me eating a cow. List 'em, then. So? Nope. Good and Evil are completely arbitrary. There's Mind Rape, which is an Evil spell. Then there's Sanctify the Wicked, which is Mind Rape, but Good. Poisons are Evil, but Ravages are poisons but Good.. BoED says ends don't matter period, and killing a genocidal warlord with a poisoned dagger is Evil, even if he was about to kill you and a billion other people. Hell, Evil doesn't even require any intention behind it according to BoVD. Good and Evil are completely arbitrary. And now those are the entire world? Who ever said that it made sense? ... I think you're confusing "respect" and "convenience." Sorry, brah, but that isn't how it works. You made the claim. You back it up. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Why are undead inherently evil?
Top