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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 6183054" data-attributes="member: 95493">Raneth, for my money I don't think ALL undead should be universally evil. There are many, probably most, that should be but I think the undead themselves don't have to be. With that said, I agree with the existing lore that the SPELLS to create them should be evil/unspeakable. Being a lich should always be evil as it requires a twisted person to do it, and so on. Now to your points..This argument boils down to "the soul isn't in there anymore, use the flesh" and it ignores a number of variables.1. Whatever religious, societal or even what the soul/former person would want done with the body. If a corpse in our real world is dug up and mutilated for pretty much any reason, especially without the person signing an organ donour card then it is a pretty heinous and illegal act. It is equally wrong if it it not dug up, but done after death but that is beside the point.2. It ignores the religious, societal, etc., concerns required for afterlife. The Egyptians believed that a bounty was required to buy a station in the afterlife. Vikings were given weapons for the afterlife. Why would this not apply when you know there is an afterlife compared to belief in one (as in real life)?3. Consent - already covered a little - but you are basically using somebody's body without their consent. This is made worse when you can literally contact them. Just because they aren't using it doesn't mean they would like someone else to make it walk around and serve them in the most degrading ways possible. Especially with known symptoms of: hunger, kill/eat innocent people, have no will of its own, forced to obey the creator/master.Actually, unless I'm vastly mistaken, when you animate a corpse you do attach the soul to it. So much so that as long as they are walking around they cannot be resurrected without first destroying their undead self.Also, Golems are a little different, as the elemental spirit is one form. You aren't cutting up a earth elemental and then fashioning the golem out of its body and using its spirit to make it walk around - though if you could and did that would be evil too.</blockquote>

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