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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ARandomGod" data-source="post: 2165622" data-attributes="member: 17296">See, I personally think that Adamantine body is actually a horrible thing, and one of the main disadvantages of the class.  They HAVE to take this feat at first level, or they can never get 'good' armor. And worse yet, there are only two types of armor that they can get (other than their base), both of which would require their only first level feat. If you're playing a fighter (or other character that will get armor), you can expect to get that later. Is it true that so many people really *would* permanently lose their first level feat to permanently get adamantine full plate that they can sleep in (and must sleep in, and can never take off?) I mean, unless you're playing a game wherein you'll never see that kind of equipment, what you've done is give up something good now but will get better and better as time goes on (being one step further up the feat chain) for something that's great now, but will get less and less good as time goes on. Seriously. Adamantine is +15,000 gold, and full plate is 1,500 gold. Are you really saying that a feat is worth only 16,500 gold pieces? Can I buy an extra one from you at level 10 for that price? Because I don't know a single character who wouldn't. And it's not even the 'best' armor for all occasions. However it IS the only one offered. I'm playing in a game now where my character has taken that feat. Sure, it's pretty good at low levels, but we rarely play long in the low levels... we like to quickly go up to level 6 or so before starting to slow down... I'm hoping that eventually my GM will let me do something to alter the composition of that armor to mithril full plate instead of adamantine, because that would be so much better for my particular character. It'll probably cost around a limited wish (at least that's what I'd charge)I think it's so very odd that people seem to think that's a good feat, because IMO it's the biggest drawback of the race.</blockquote>

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