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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 8865229" data-attributes="member: 6684958">You'd be surprised how much of the OPs problem would be fixed with PC death, even if you don't like it.&nbsp; You would not have &quot;a grind&quot; when that grinding character(s) is dead.&nbsp; Note I also mentioned negative things.&nbsp; A great example are things that take a PC out of the combat.&nbsp; Five PCs enter an area and engage in combat, and on the first round two of them are paralyzed. Round two of the combat will be radically different as it's JUST three PC, not five.&nbsp; And yes, two players have to sit there and do &quot;nothing&quot; for a couple minutes.Also, you really need to take out the game play style that, like movies and TV shows, that the &quot;Heroes Must Always Win&quot; .&nbsp; This is also has a HUGE impact.&nbsp; When the DM and players alter the game reality so the PCs always win/succeed/are successful you get the OP problems.&nbsp; And, yes, nearly all problems such as the ones mentioned in the OP are caused by play styles.&nbsp; Person one gets on a pedal bike and has no problem riding along on a smooth blacktop path.&nbsp; Person two picks a broken rocky path and they don't get far before falling off and saying &quot;that bike does not work!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 8865229, member: 6684958"] You'd be surprised how much of the OPs problem would be fixed with PC death, [B]even [/B]if you don't like it. You would not have "a grind" when that grinding character(s) is [B]dead.[/B] Note I also mentioned negative things. A great example are things that take a PC out of the combat. Five PCs enter an area and engage in combat, and on the [I]first round two of them are paralyzed. [/I]Round two of the combat will be radically different as it's JUST three PC, not five. And yes, two players have to sit there and do "nothing" for a couple minutes. Also, you really need to take out the game play style that, like movies and TV shows, that the "Heroes Must Always Win" . This is also has a HUGE impact. When the DM and players alter the game reality so the PCs always win/succeed/are successful you get the OP problems. And, yes, nearly all problems such as the ones mentioned in the OP are caused by play styles. Person one gets on a pedal bike and has no problem riding along on a smooth blacktop path. Person two picks a broken rocky path and they don't get far before falling off and saying "that bike does not work!" [/QUOTE]

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