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<blockquote data-quote="tomBitonti" data-source="post: 7621457" data-attributes="member: 13107">There is violence in gaming, but only up to a point.&nbsp; Hit points hide the sense of realistic damage: In few games do we deal with lingering injuries (cut nerves or tendons, badly healed bones) or issues of infection, or of malnutrition or insanity.&nbsp; For most games, the violence is of a sanitized sort.&nbsp; That 3E was a step away from a miniatures games emphasizes this, at least for D&amp;D.&nbsp; (There are exceptions.&nbsp; Warhammer and Call of Cthulhu spring to mind.&nbsp; And some groups embrace greater realism.)When violence becomes an issue is when one is forced to more clearly imagine what is happening.&nbsp; When 1HD-1 goblins turn into juvenile and other non-combatants who are backed in a corner and are facing slaughter.&nbsp; When torture scenes are made more detailed.&nbsp; My thinking is that we handle violence by finding find ways to not see it.That gamers as a whole eschew more detail and realism is positive in that it shows that most folks are violence averse.&nbsp; See, for example, reactions to groups role playing rape, which was discussed in another thread.&nbsp; Folks will tolerate only so much violence in their games.Thx!TomB</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tomBitonti, post: 7621457, member: 13107"] There is violence in gaming, but only up to a point. Hit points hide the sense of realistic damage: In few games do we deal with lingering injuries (cut nerves or tendons, badly healed bones) or issues of infection, or of malnutrition or insanity. For most games, the violence is of a sanitized sort. That 3E was a step away from a miniatures games emphasizes this, at least for D&D. (There are exceptions. Warhammer and Call of Cthulhu spring to mind. And some groups embrace greater realism.) When violence becomes an issue is when one is forced to more clearly imagine what is happening. When 1HD-1 goblins turn into juvenile and other non-combatants who are backed in a corner and are facing slaughter. When torture scenes are made more detailed. My thinking is that we handle violence by finding find ways to not see it. That gamers as a whole eschew more detail and realism is positive in that it shows that most folks are violence averse. See, for example, reactions to groups role playing rape, which was discussed in another thread. Folks will tolerate only so much violence in their games. Thx! TomB [/QUOTE]

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