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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7622152" data-attributes="member: 22779">Meh, the dragon had a non-zero chance of being asleep when you got there.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; And, again, given that level of a party, you've got so much fire protection that the breath weapon is a joke.&nbsp; And, let's not forget, we're cherry picking the biggest non-unique monster in the 1e monster manual here.&nbsp; Most other monsters were nowhere near this dangerous.&nbsp; There's a pile of variables here.&nbsp; My point is, by and large, most groups are going to steamroll most encounters.&nbsp; Why did people feel the need to avoid combat?&nbsp; I dunno, then again, we left AD&amp;D as soon as 2e came out and 2e was even worse - fighters really were damage gods.&nbsp; As I said, I'm always left rather surprised that folks worried about this sort of thing.&nbsp; It was so easy to curb stomp monsters in AD&amp;D.&nbsp; The only real danger came from the plethora of save or die effects.&nbsp; Combat?&nbsp; A 9th level AD&amp;D party could face multiple dragons and come out on top.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7622152, member: 22779"] Meh, the dragon had a non-zero chance of being asleep when you got there. :D And, again, given that level of a party, you've got so much fire protection that the breath weapon is a joke. And, let's not forget, we're cherry picking the biggest non-unique monster in the 1e monster manual here. Most other monsters were nowhere near this dangerous. There's a pile of variables here. My point is, by and large, most groups are going to steamroll most encounters. Why did people feel the need to avoid combat? I dunno, then again, we left AD&D as soon as 2e came out and 2e was even worse - fighters really were damage gods. As I said, I'm always left rather surprised that folks worried about this sort of thing. It was so easy to curb stomp monsters in AD&D. The only real danger came from the plethora of save or die effects. Combat? A 9th level AD&D party could face multiple dragons and come out on top. [/QUOTE]

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