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<blockquote data-quote="Xaelvaen" data-source="post: 7623368" data-attributes="member: 6681906">First, love the topic - kudos.&nbsp; I can understand how certain groups or audiences need to pay attention to, and alter these aspects.&nbsp; I'm all for the freedom to express yourself in RPGs, for all people, provided you know your audience - that's always the key.Secondly, a personal anecdote - My players (21 years together this year) have come to bloody love kobolds.&nbsp; Perhaps it is the influence of Deekin from Neverwinter Nights, or the 3.5 supplements that gave Kobolds several pages of in depth information, or our love of ugly things and calling them cute (like certain dogs).&nbsp; Regardless, they love kobolds and hate killing them.&nbsp; Any time there's a kobold den, a wizard either pretends to be a dragon and makes a thunderous voice convincing the kobolds to back down, or someone else finds a way to try and not kill the little pests until they can be reasoned with.&nbsp; So in your particular adventure path (don't believe I've ever played it ), it just reminded me of my players not worrying about killing the women and children, they want to befriend them all!&nbsp; In fact, in our current campaign, they found a small kobold den that had recently suffered the loss of all their females to disease, so they were aggressive.&nbsp; Here comes the saviors - &quot;aww, don't worry little kobolds, we'll find you some females.&nbsp; Just give us all the useless gold and silver you mine - you keep the gems.&nbsp; Everybody's happy.&quot;&nbsp; Then here comes the natural 20 on persuasion.Anecdote aside - here's thirdly.&nbsp; I've never, not once since 1989, been in a group where anyone would murder innocents for any reason.&nbsp; I've even had evil alignment in the party (typically lawful evil, mind you) that knew better.&nbsp; Not because of morals, but for their own personal justifications.&nbsp; I've just never experienced that mentality, so I can only answer the question of 'violence in RPGs' with a moral compass.&nbsp; I've never seen anyone killed, monsters included, that didn't deserve justice to be wrought swiftly - and even then, there's those occasional paladins who'll arrest anything of sentience instead of wanting it dead.&nbsp; Had a Priest of Tyr one time have a team of horses and a jail wagon travel around with our group.&nbsp; He spent so much damn money on prisoner food.&nbsp; I never had the heart to tell him that the courts just sentenced them all to death anyway...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xaelvaen, post: 7623368, member: 6681906"] First, love the topic - kudos. I can understand how certain groups or audiences need to pay attention to, and alter these aspects. I'm all for the freedom to express yourself in RPGs, for all people, provided you know your audience - that's always the key. Secondly, a personal anecdote - My players (21 years together this year) have come to bloody love kobolds. Perhaps it is the influence of Deekin from Neverwinter Nights, or the 3.5 supplements that gave Kobolds several pages of in depth information, or our love of ugly things and calling them cute (like certain dogs). Regardless, they love kobolds and hate killing them. Any time there's a kobold den, a wizard either pretends to be a dragon and makes a thunderous voice convincing the kobolds to back down, or someone else finds a way to try and not kill the little pests until they can be reasoned with. So in your particular adventure path (don't believe I've ever played it ), it just reminded me of my players not worrying about killing the women and children, they want to befriend them all! In fact, in our current campaign, they found a small kobold den that had recently suffered the loss of all their females to disease, so they were aggressive. Here comes the saviors - "aww, don't worry little kobolds, we'll find you some females. Just give us all the useless gold and silver you mine - you keep the gems. Everybody's happy." Then here comes the natural 20 on persuasion. Anecdote aside - here's thirdly. I've never, not once since 1989, been in a group where anyone would murder innocents for any reason. I've even had evil alignment in the party (typically lawful evil, mind you) that knew better. Not because of morals, but for their own personal justifications. I've just never experienced that mentality, so I can only answer the question of 'violence in RPGs' with a moral compass. I've never seen anyone killed, monsters included, that didn't deserve justice to be wrought swiftly - and even then, there's those occasional paladins who'll arrest anything of sentience instead of wanting it dead. Had a Priest of Tyr one time have a team of horses and a jail wagon travel around with our group. He spent so much damn money on prisoner food. I never had the heart to tell him that the courts just sentenced them all to death anyway... [/QUOTE]

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